Design and publish HTML websites without writing code (http://muse.adobe.com/?trackingid=JAWWD)
Hmmmm...I'll download the beta and see how it goes. Report back later....
I downloaded it yesterday, still reading the instructions.
So far, not much progress.
Also playing with Edge.
We'll see how "easy" it really is.
I might try it out if I have some free time so I can make at least one negative comment about it.
Is Dreamweaver gone?
Still in my dock. Unused about 98% of the time.
I use CMS scripts for 99% of the sites I create so I don't really see how Muse would help or interest me.
With easy to use systems like WordPress and Joomla, who would want to toil through building a static site? I don't think there is any serious commercial site out there that isn't database driven.
Same here but I just finished up a static site and it sucks. Never again.
That's what I said after the last one I did.
Quote from: gnubler on August 16, 2011, 09:44:48 AMI might try it out if I have some free time so I can make at least one negative comment about it.
Is Dreamweaver gone?
they call it "dreamweaver LITE" :laugh:
QuoteGranted, the code Muse generates isn't going to win any awards, but in most cases, a designer's clients (and those clients' customers) aren't going to be too concerned if the end result is a super slick, magazine-like website that perfectly matches their signage and other print collateral.
It actually wouldn't be too bad for a small site with 5 pages or less.
With the CMS scripts gnubler mentioned though they have already taken care of 99% of the suicide inducing madness of HTML/CSS design.
QuoteGranted, the code Muse generates isn't going to win any awards, but in most cases, a designer's clients (and those clients' customers) aren't going to be too concerned if the end result is a super slick, magazine-like website that perfectly matches their signage and other print collateral.
Fcuk super slick. Ever heard of browser incompatibility, Adobe? :banghead:
Just push the easy button, right?
Browser compatibility is a myth and Adobe didn't create that problem.
Quote from: Joe on August 16, 2011, 11:42:07 AMBrowser compatibility is a myth and Adobe didn't create that problem.
Nope, but it's about to create some new ones. :laugh:
I would pay $10 to see some doosh in a coffeeshop using Muse on his Macbook.
Quote from: gnubler on August 16, 2011, 11:54:36 AMQuote from: Joe on August 16, 2011, 11:42:07 AMBrowser compatibility is a myth and Adobe didn't create that problem.
Nope, but it's about to create some new ones. :laugh:
I would pay $10 to see some doosh in a coffeeshop using Muse on his Macbook.
Hmmmm...I don't have a Macbook. Can I borrow yours and 8 bucks for a cup of coffee?
Depends™.
Do you use the word Kafkaesque on a regular basis? Do you wear black frame eyeglasses? Ironic 80s soda pop tshirts?
Quote from: gnubler on August 16, 2011, 12:24:52 PMDepends™.
Do you use the word Kafkaesque on a regular basis? Do you wear black frame eyeglasses? Ironic 80s soda pop tshirts?
No. No. No.
I would like to use the word Kafkaesque on a regular basis, but for some reason, I just can't seem to get the hang of it...
If describing client files I can use Kakaesque on a regular basis.
Quote from: Farabomb on August 16, 2011, 12:57:29 PMIf describing client files I can use Kakaesque on a regular basis.
That is shittyesque...
Quote from: Joe on August 16, 2011, 12:31:37 PMQuote from: gnubler on August 16, 2011, 12:24:52 PMDepends™.
Do you use the word Kafkaesque on a regular basis? Do you wear black frame eyeglasses? Ironic 80s soda pop tshirts?
No. No. No.
You will not fit in at an urban coffeeshop. Let's try a different approach: do you have a woodworker's beard and a golden retriever?
Quote from: gnubler on August 16, 2011, 01:12:44 PMQuote from: Joe on August 16, 2011, 12:31:37 PMQuote from: gnubler on August 16, 2011, 12:24:52 PMDepends™.
Do you use the word Kafkaesque on a regular basis? Do you wear black frame eyeglasses? Ironic 80s soda pop tshirts?
No. No. No.
You will not fit in at an urban coffeeshop. Let's try a different approach: do you have a woodworker's beard and a golden retriever?
No. No.
Do you ride a vintage motorcycle and read philosophy books?
We are running out of avenues here...
What are you, one of those "regular guys"? :whip:
No. No.
I guess.
QuoteMac OS
• Intel® Core™ Duo or faster processor
• Mac OS X v10.6 or higher
• 512MB of RAM (1GB recommended)
• Adobe® AIR® 2.7 or higher
All my Macs are running 10.5 or lower. Guess I won't be demo'ing Muse. Boo hoo.
WTF is Adobe Air? No thanks!
adobe air is special air for those of us that worship the god that is adobe.
oh, we're not allowed to use capital letters, it's kafkaesque.
:cool:
how quarky and web2.0 of you.
After running the Muse site, built with Muse, thru the W3C validators:
HTML Validation Output: 18 Errors
CSS: Sorry! We found the following errors (677)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Have fun, dezingers. Joe, I hope you or I don't end up taking over one of these POS sites.
Just looking at the source code of the Muse home page makes me want to barf. That layout could be hand coded with like 99% less code. :death:
Quote from: david on August 16, 2011, 11:11:53 AMthey said it wasn't pretty
QuoteGranted, the code Muse generates isn't going to win any awards, but in most cases, a designer's clients (and those clients' customers) aren't going to be too concerned if the end result is a super slick, magazine-like website that perfectly matches their signage and other print collateral.
wha' do you want for nothin? rubber biscuits?
Quote from: gnubler on August 16, 2011, 03:28:51 PMAfter running the Muse site, built with Muse, thru the W3C validators:
HTML Validation Output: 18 Errors
CSS: Sorry! We found the following errors (677)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Have fun, dezingers. Joe, I hope you or I don't end up taking over one of these POS sites.
Right now it's in beta and free. Once it goes live you can't buy it. It is on a subscription only. $20 a month or $180 per year. And it is not a replacement for Dreamweaver. It is a replacement for iWeb. Dreamweaver lives on...
Much like what CS6 is going to except CS6 will be much more per month/per year.
Well, the code purist community is going to squirm and seethe when they see sites being built with this crap tool.
I bet it's bloated as crap, too. Like all the other Adobe stuff.
BTW, I saw Photoshop v.3 for sale at the thrift store (with floppy installers) for $3.99. I've never used v.3 but I bet it can do 90% of what I used PS for in general prepress.
I've been using it a little to test some things out. It's about like any other cheap WYSIWYG HTML editor only it should be called WYSINNWYG (WhatYouSeeIsNotNecessarilyWhatYouGet)
:puke2:
Quote from: david on August 16, 2011, 07:10:21 AMI downloaded it yesterday, still reading the instructions.
So far, not much progress.
Also playing with Edge.
We'll see how "easy" it really is.
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2628/2gx001hsmall.jpg)
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yep, me an' Edge go wayyyyy back.
did I ever tell you about the time....
...please elaborate.
it started on a warm and windy day in June... June of 73, I think...
I was hanging out, at the bar of course, and in walks this guy...
It's official. This software sucks. It could suck a golf ball through a garden hose it sucks so bad. :death:
Suck start a Harley?
Suck chrome off a trailer hitch?
Yes...and yes.
Awesome. Good thing my old OS is too "old" to test it out.
More bloated crap for retard dezingers.
Quote from: gnubler on August 22, 2011, 10:58:20 AMAwesome. Good thing my old OS is too "old" to test it out.
More bloated crap for retard dezingers.
It make Dreamweaver look good. :death:
Like the guy I briefly worked with a few years ago who built his site with Yahoo Sitebuilder or some crap and then put "web design" on his resume.
Can't wait to see what sort of dezingers Muse shits out.
It's actually not a new app. It's just a repackaged iWeb. They should have renamed it to iSuck.
Kinky.