Apogee screws up trapping on this file

[andyfest]

Yeah it's not worthwhile trying to untrap a Nexus/Artpro trapped file. It's way faster to fix the errant trap manually and resend thru the trapper as Nexus will honour your manual traps.

[t-pat]

I think it's un-possible, not only not worthwhile. The slices! Oh the humanity. Anyway, not too common of a problem around here.

[DCurry]

So as a fix you are flattening in Acrobat before sending into Apogee? Uggggh....

Actually, no - just re-exporting from InDesign and choosing PDF 1.3. Still, uggggh.

[Joe]

So as a fix you are flattening in Acrobat before sending into Apogee? Uggggh....

Actually, no - just re-exporting from InDesign and choosing PDF 1.3. Still, uggggh.

Yeah, what is the point of having an APPE workflow if you have to do that? If it helps, I feel bad for you. :laugh:

[David]

If it helps, I feel bad for you. :laugh:

me, too.    :laugh: :laugh:

[G_Town]

If it helps, I feel bad for you. :laugh:

me, too.    :laugh: :laugh:

I see transparency applied to the blur grad? Is that maybe why it's not trapping?

[DCurry]

I see transparency applied to the blur grad? Is that maybe why it's not trapping?

The blue box is solid PMS with a Gradient Feather applied to make it fade out. Yes, the effect is what is preventing it from trapping, but it shouldn't. The proof is that it will trap if flattened or run thru a different vendor's workflow.

[frailer]

Looking OK this end, dan, (I think  :undecided: ).  Zoomed-in/rendered view.

[frailer]

Further thought, and ImpoDave may confirm. XMF was having similar problems until about 9 months ago. Was able to signal him to chase an update over there....
It only hit me when I was looking at the screenshot. From memory though, was RGB pics trapping with Spots.
Not anything to do with the Monotone Black Pic... ?   :undecided:

PP thread_similar problem

We upgraded but beware, we had to go back to 2.5 appe, because of a bug with drop shadows that rendered as solid blocks, we decided to go back to the older verison to avoid anymore surprises, if you would like to try the file through your own RIP, PM me and ill send it to you, it gave us a bit of a shock because we run the same job every month and the designer didnt even really look at the drop shadows on the raster email proof because it was always fine before.

[Joe]

frailer, it looks like you are having the same issue Dan is having and it's not trapping here. See screenshot attached.

[Joe]

It should look like this.

[frailer]

OK, I thought he may be having pic/drop shadow 'trapping' problems... like boxes instead, f'rinstance. That's one for Fujifilm guy when he comes.
Better look at my settings too, could be in there.   :undecided:

....nope, tried all settings. Off to the STD clinic..  (Standard Trapping Difficulties).

[Joe]

Does yours get trapped the same way that Dan's does...when outputting to one-bit tiffs after imposition?

[frailer]

Does yours get trapped the same way that Dan's does...when outputting to one-bit tiffs after imposition?

Well, those zooms are the rendered, (post-imposed/plate-ready/presumably 1-bit), view. He would have to confirm that that is what Apogee's doing, as well.

[Joe]

I think he has already confirmed that. I guess if XMF and Apogee are both using APPE trapping it looks like you are both suffering from the same issue. For kicks, take his PDF, flatten it and then run it through and see if it traps.