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frailer

August 18, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Vendor guy here had a call from another customer. Whole job printed where this font dropped out. Looks like a 'net download/dodgy one. Says it's Type 1.
We are testing customer's file here in XMF.
Sadly, they use ROOM proofing, though they have Black Magic. BM woulda showed it missing. Ouch.
When zoomed in, triangular centre in Cap 'A' disappears. When outlined, same happens. When rendered in XMF, font completely disappears.
Comments welcome. I can feed them back.
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Joe

#1
August 18, 2011, 07:19:00 PM
My only comment is that I have seen that happen a lot with crapware fonts floating about on the web. :death:
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frailer

#2
August 18, 2011, 07:49:50 PM Last Edit: August 18, 2011, 08:19:43 PM by frailer
FWIW, fed back.    :rolleyes:   And, correction. I had it wrong, the whole font wasn't dropping out, just those (insert technical name for punch-outs in fonts). But enough to make it a hullabaloo, it seems.
Good girl turns bad.    :undecided:
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gnubler

#3
August 18, 2011, 08:24:11 PM
Outlines looks like the good girl exploded.  :laugh:
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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frailer

#4
August 18, 2011, 09:25:50 PM Last Edit: August 18, 2011, 09:27:29 PM by frailer
'Exploded' probably best describes the customer/printer dialogue.   :sad:  Ugly fonts really are ugly, sometimes, on other levels. Glad I'm not them.

Here's the evidence....   :rolleyes:   http://www.fontspace.com/cathy-davies/goodgirl  Gets a 'T' rating. Tacky.
Forgotten good guys: Dennis Ritchie, Burrell Smith, Bill Atkinson, Richard Stallman
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DCurry

#5
August 19, 2011, 05:06:34 AM
Quote from: frailer on August 18, 2011, 07:49:50 PM(insert technical name for punch-outs in fonts).

(counters)
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frailer

#6
August 19, 2011, 05:37:18 AM
Thank you Dan, knew you'd be along.   :laugh:  My typography bible was at home.   :cheesy:
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DigiCorn

#7
August 19, 2011, 06:53:22 AM
Whenever I have a font issue like that, I convert it to paths/outlines pre-RIP... if possible. If pdf and font not embedded, I'll just flatten and rasterize the whole thing in Photoshop. If font still drops out/doesn't image properly, then I kick it back.

Our customers don't like to be disturbed.  :sleepy:
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gnubler

#8
August 19, 2011, 08:09:03 AM
Quote from: DigiCorn on August 19, 2011, 06:53:22 AMOur customers are disturbed.

Fixed.

I try to take every step possible to not have to disturb my customers. It's better for all of us.
Hicks • Cross • Carlin • Kinison • Parker • Stone •  Colbert • Hedberg • Stanhope • Burr

"As much as I'd like your guns I prefer your buns." - The G

Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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mwc

#9
August 19, 2011, 08:12:30 AM
Quote from: frailer on August 18, 2011, 06:46:33 PMVendor guy here had a call from another customer. Whole job printed where this font dropped out. Looks like a 'net download/dodgy one. Says it's Type 1.
We are testing customer's file here in XMF.
Sadly, they use ROOM proofing, though they have Black Magic. BM woulda showed it missing. Ouch.
When zoomed in, triangular centre in Cap 'A' disappears. When outlined, same happens. When rendered in XMF, font completely disappears.
Comments welcome. I can feed them back.

Don't understand the ROOM proofing part of this....if it was proofed in a ROOM workflow, it shows the problem...right? If it shows one way and printed another....it is not ROOM.
Crap fonts are Crap....your workflow shouldn't show one thing, then output another....ever!

Farabomb

#10
August 19, 2011, 08:16:16 AM
With a ROOM, if it's there after the initial rip there is no reason it should change down the line.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
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         —Benjamin Franklin
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DigiCorn

#11
August 19, 2011, 09:08:14 AM
Get a ROOM you two. We're NORM.
"There's been a lot of research recently on how hard it is to dislodge an impression once it's been implanted in someone's mind. (This is why political attack ads don't have to be true to be effective. The other side can point out their inaccuracies, but the voter's mind privileges the memory of the original accusation, which was juicier than any counterargument ever could be.)"
― Johnny Carson

"Selling my soul would be a lot easier if I could just find it."
– Nikki Sixx

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut."
― Ernest Hemingway

Joe

#12
August 19, 2011, 10:19:10 AM
I've seen, in Prinergy, the fonts will look fine in the normalized PDF, look fine on the 600 dpi VPS and drop out on the 2400 dpi one-bit tiff. Go back and make the VPS at 2400 dpi and it drops out. The output resolution can have an effect on these things.
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The seven ages of man: spills, drills, thrills, bills, ills, pills and wills.

Farabomb

#13
August 19, 2011, 10:28:29 AM
Thanks for making my butthole pucker Joe.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
         —Benjamin Franklin
My other job

Joe

#14
August 19, 2011, 10:47:03 AM
My Friday gift to you. :tongue:
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The seven ages of man: spills, drills, thrills, bills, ills, pills and wills.
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