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Would like to get a running poll...let it build.
I'm working on a raise ???...I think it could help for an avg.
Tks!

Why did you stop at 26? I think you should stop at 40

Anyway as a manager I am on salary...

Salary here as well.  As long as you don't divide it by the number of hours I have to work and/or be on call... I guess I'm doing ok.

A while back (a little over a year ago now I guess...) I did a little research on supervisor / manager rates.
Here are the averages I came up with.

Industry Average suggest $52,505 - $55,120

Look at PIA & GATF, and some other organizations for studies they've done on this.

Quote from: Vee on September 11, 2007, 02:16:15 PMA while back (a little over a year ago now I guess...) I did a little research on supervisor / manager rates.
Here are the averages I came up with.

Industry Average suggest $52,505 - $55,120

I wouldn't do my job for that much money...
just sayin' is all.

It's an average. Not a say all.
Some make much more, some make much less.

That is supposed to be "middle of the road".... ya know?
In between the high & the low end....

Quote from: david on September 11, 2007, 02:25:30 PMI wouldn't do my job for that much money...
just sayin' is all.

Gotta say I agree with you...

of course , I'm actually still on the clock, so I do get my overtime, and I mean, I do get my overtime.

You guys are lucky! Here in Phil. we make only $3.00 per hour. Thats above average here already. Is anyone willing to hire me? ;D

So do you guys think the average I posted is wrong?

KEYWORD: Average

There are a lot of variables to consider for an average supervisor/manager salary.  You have the usual knowledge, experience, size of the company etc.  But location plays a big part too.  A lot depends on where you live and how much competition there is.

In my case... for where I live... for the size of the company... it's definitely on the low side.  But as you said, it's an average.

Quote from: 30YearsandCounting on September 11, 2007, 03:26:14 PMThere are a lot of variables to consider for an average supervisor/manager salary.  You have the usual knowledge, experience, size of the company etc.  But location plays a big part too.  A lot depends on where you live and how much competition there is.

In my case... for where I live... for the size of the company... it's definitely on the low side.  But as you said, it's an average.

Exactly. Thank you, I was thinking no one read the word "average"
And as you stated, there are a lot of variables. We're talking about shops making 1-2 million a year and shops making over 100 million a year.
Huge variance in pay, and probably the most important variable is the market/location.
I've done a study... it may not be 100% accurate - but it got me a raise. ;D ;D

And the average pay was in the mid 50's.


 :ninja:

Quote from: Vee on September 11, 2007, 03:36:11 PMI've done a study... it may not be 100% accurate - but it got me a raise. ;D ;D

If you do your homework and can justify your argument... it usually works.
Congratulations.

Thank you very much.

Quote from: Vee the ManI've done a study... it may not be 100% accurate - but it got me a raise.

hey, no fair...

get me one too!!!

Now that you mention it, it has been a while for me too... I'm due.
 :-\

i think, from a brit point of view, your average was about right

manager here (please - dont laugh) and am salaried - but come to think of it, it's been a while since I got a little reward. on the other hand, we do get annual wage rises of about 2.3percent - if we're lucky!

I hate overtime,there is another world after work!

Quote from: Vee on September 11, 2007, 02:16:15 PMA while back (a little over a year ago now I guess...) I did a little research on supervisor / manager rates.
Here are the averages I came up with.

Industry Average suggest $52,505 - $55,120

Look at PIA & GATF, and some other organizations for studies they've done on this.

Hope it helps          Hope it helps          Hope it helps

Now where is the Average for ?

And where is the $30+ selection ?

LRob,
The average is from across the US. From you shop to mine, the big ones, the small ones, the shops in Metro area, and in the back woods.
If you look & dig hard enough, you may find the same thing... unless I'm the only one willing to do the leg work - in which case, I'm the only one with  the data.

Please, someone prove me wrong. If I am wrong...


I'm thinking you your other ? is in reference to the poll.  Correct?

Damn...well that gives me something to look at. Tks.
Raise day is Mon...I'm just hoping for $16, just 2yrs steady at prepress.
I still handle a bunch more shit.
I'll prob get $15...just got a write-up for missing days. I quit a couple of weeks ago &
was asked to come back. I got a write up for that...LOL WTF. So, well see.
The boss just wants to fuck with me....how fun.
I'm thinking the big shops are where the $$ is.

 :o

Looks as if its time for a raise here as well..   

Got my raise...thanks all!!

In past talks in PPF, it did not seem like people made much $$.
Now (thanks to this poll) I can see there is something to look forward to for all the Stress.

Quote from: prepressDog on September 17, 2007, 07:23:52 PMI can see there is something to look forward to for all the Stress.

Haha!! Well, if you insist..    Congrats, on the raise!

Yes, congrats on the raise.

Tks!

this thread makes me weep for what i make..... :'(

Quote from: The Stevinator on September 20, 2007, 10:22:00 AMthis thread makes me weep for what i make..... :'(

You make too much?

HA!, try so under paid i want to go home and shoot myself.

Quote from: The Stevinator on September 20, 2007, 10:34:36 AMHA!, try so under paid i want to go home and shoot myself.

I have a spare 12 ga shotgun...

dont worry, i have a 12gauge too, with plenty of slugs.  but that's for home invasion.  im just in he process of quantifying why i'm worth more money.  so, this thread is good.  but it still sucks to know your getting screwed.

Quote from: The Stevinator on September 20, 2007, 10:41:05 AMdont worry, i have a 12gauge too, with plenty of slugs.  but that's for home invasion.  im just in he process of quantifying why i'm worth more money.  so, this thread is good.  but it still sucks to know your getting screwed.

I was kidding. We don't want you to die. Matrix needs you to to be a fighter!

Quote from: The Stevinator on September 20, 2007, 10:41:05 AMdont worry, i have a 12gauge too, with plenty of slugs.  but that's for home invasion.  im just in he process of quantifying why i'm worth more money.  so, this thread is good.  but it still sucks to know your getting screwed.

yep, just provide valid explanation/proof, that your value is higher than they are currently paying you and it becomes a win/win for management to "keep you happy/productive"..   

GOOD LUCK!!   its time for me as well, no pay increase here since Nov 05'!!   :o

we need more voters....

come on people, i heard there are over 100 members out there

http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos230.htm
This is from the U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics:

"Median hourly earnings of prepress technicians and workers were $15.30 in May 2004. The middle 50 percent earned between $11.69 and $20.01 an hour. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $9.06, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $24.82 an hour.

For job printers, median hourly earnings were $15.41 in May 2004. The middle 50 percent earned between $12.00 and $20.04 an hour. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $9.57, while the highest 10 percent earned more than $24.05 an hour.

Median hourly earnings in commercial printing, the industry employing the largest number of prepress technicians and workers, were $15.91 in May 2004, while the figure for these workers in the newspaper, periodical, and book publishing industry was $14.22 an hour. For job printers, median hourly earnings in commercial printing in May 2004 were $15.67, while in the newspaper, periodical, and book publishing industry median hourly earnings were $15.63.

Wage rates for prepress technicians and workers vary according to occupation, level of experience, training, location, size of firm, and union membership status."

Nice reply 30yrs.
Yes, keep voting. It would be cool to see the avg across All members.

$21/hour for the last 2 years.  The only time I seem to get any kind of raise is when I get laid off or fired - then hired back (after they realize they really did need me after all). I feel underpaid now thanks to this thread as well - but on the bright side, I'm way overdue for a layoff...