Since as of Jan 21st LogMeIn free isn't offered I have to find another option or spend the money. I wouldn't mind a one time fee but I don't like a yearly subscription that they can change the price as they feel fit.
What options are out there and does anyone have personal experience with it? I am just looking for remote access from home or laptop. I don't need all the extra bells and whistles LogMeIn Pro has. I do need it to support multiple screens, since I have 2 displays on the mac
I didn't know they were discontinuing the free service - that sucks! It's very handy to be able to access my home computer from work, or vice versa, but I don't do it enough to justify buying it.
I hope we find a free alternative.
I know I can find a VNC client or something. Looking into Teamviewer (http://www.teamviewer.com/en/products/remotecontrol.aspx) right now.
If you have your computers on the free LogMeIn you have 7 days to pay up or find another solution.
Yeah, I just downloaded/installed Teamviewer. At first glance it's not as easy to set up as LMI. Shall test it out tonight.
There Goog's Remote Desktop
NeoRouter
Teamviewer (already mentioned but "TeamViewer recently pushed an "update" that imposes a fairly short time limit on the free connections. This was not mentioned to the users prior to running the update. It also "upgraded your account" online so you can no longer run the older unlimited version of teamviewer.")
Quote from: Farabomb on January 22, 2014, 09:09:35 AMSince as of Jan 21st LogMeIn free isn't offered I have to find another option or spend the money. I wouldn't mind a one time fee but I don't like a yearly subscription that they can change the price as they feel fit.
What options are out there and does anyone have personal experience with it? I am just looking for remote access from home or laptop. I don't need all the extra bells and whistles LogMeIn Pro has. I do need it to support multiple screens, since I have 2 displays on the mac
I just switched everything yesterday to team viewer. Seems to work well so I am sticking with it.
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on January 22, 2014, 10:19:30 AMThere Goog's Remote Desktop
NeoRouter
Teamviewer (already mentioned but "TeamViewer recently pushed an "update" that imposes a fairly short time limit on the free connections. This was not mentioned to the users prior to running the update. It also "upgraded your account" online so you can no longer run the older unlimited version of teamviewer.")
Hadn't seen that.
I also use Chicken (http://sourceforge.net/projects/chicken/)...but it does rely on VNC so you do have to open ports on your firewall for it to work.
Teamviewer seemed to be nice but the initial buy-in of $800 for the license is a bit steep. Thanks for the info on the limits of the free version.
NeoRouter seems decent, any experience?
I love my android but I'm not sure I need the goog in everything in my life.
Quote from: Farabomb on January 22, 2014, 10:26:15 AMTeamviewer seemed to be nice but the initial buy-in of $800 for the license is a bit steep. Thanks for the info on the limits of the free version.
NeoRouter seems decent, any experience?
I love my android but I'm not sure I need the goog in everything in my life.
What $800 buy-in?
My problem with Google Chrome Remote Desktop is it only works through the Chrome browser.
Quote from: Joe on January 22, 2014, 10:29:16 AMQuote from: Farabomb on January 22, 2014, 10:26:15 AMTeamviewer seemed to be nice but the initial buy-in of $800 for the license is a bit steep. Thanks for the info on the limits of the free version.
NeoRouter seems decent, any experience?
I love my android but I'm not sure I need the goog in everything in my life.
What $800 buy-in?
$750 is the first tier of paid version. Goes up from there. May keep it as a backup but I don't see up springing for that.
I am using the free version and definitely won't be springing $750 for the paid version.
So do I need to leave the Teamviewer app running in order to connect to a computer? I set up my work machine, but when I went home to try it out it said it couldn't connect.
I tried the Google remote and it didn't seem to suck. I have teamviewer as a backup. I'll be playing around more today.
Quote from: DCurry on January 23, 2014, 05:18:35 AMSo do I need to leave the Teamviewer app running in order to connect to a computer? I set up my work machine, but when I went home to try it out it said it couldn't connect.
I've been 'playing' with this the past day or so with sporadic success connecting home to work.
It seams you need to assign your computer by going to the bottom button of the general preferences tab ON BOTH MACHINES.
You need to keep the app running on BOTH machines all the time (if the top menu bar icon isn't present, the app isn't running.
Also, you need to assign/setup a password for unattended access on both machines.
THEN both machine will show up in the Computers & Contacts area (Partners and Offiline)
I have had it work a few times, but for some reason one or the other computer will go offline - and I'm pretty sure I left both setup properly - maybe it's a sleep setting and the Wake-on-Lan setting in the general prefs need to be set? (I haven't quite figured that out yet)
So I am using LMI still to the remote machine, and making sure the app is running and set, then it shows ONLINE and I can run TEAMVIEWER and make a connection (Of course that's idiotic....but LMI works as a background process and It has always worked if the app isn't started --I liked LMI for that, but I need to figure out the fix 'cause LMI is 'dead-to-me' because of the way they treated customers with this RAPID switch to a Pay-only model. I had purchased the android LMI-Ignition app a few years back as well...Just pisses me off. (TeamView does have a FREE phone/tablet app - BTW)
Sure, they will give me another 6mo. free because I purchase this 'lifetime - free access' app, and then give me the option to buy 2 licenses at 50% for the FIRST YEAR-----then $99 after that. I am DONE with them though, I don't use it that often to justify it...and,well, they just pissed me off they way they are doing this transition (yeah...repeating myself here)
Hoping TeamViewer will work for a brain-dead automatic solution where I don't need to remember to keep both machine in a certain state all the time to access them (unattended) - just some more hoops to jump through to see if this will work, i'd even PAY them for this...if it really works in my 'brain-dead-simple' world....if is reasonable of course (not the $800 plan!!!).
Will keep checking to see if someone has the answers to this.(if TeamViewer or another is a workable solution). I liked LMI....likED.
Maybe they (LMI) would at least consider have a reduced/free plan for just a 2-user (Home-Work) option...but then again, I wouldn't trust them anymore.
I found that when I install TV it has you to enter a password for unattended access but when you run the app it still does not have the unattended access setup and if you don't set it up again every time you restart the app or reboot the machine it generates a new random password. You have to go and setup team viewer for unattended access again after the initial install and then it will use the password you give it there all of the time. You only have to leave the app open all of the time that you plan to connect to. For example, if you are only connecting from home to work means the only one that has to be running all of the time is the work machine. Now for the legalities, using it for work means you are breaking the EULA. And although it was mentioned here that there is a time limit on the free version I can't find any info that actually says that. If I have to go the pay route for this, since it is almost always a Mac to Mac connection we would probably just buy Apple Remote Desktop. It appears it is only $79 in the app store though I haven't checked to see if there are any hidden costs involved as I haven't gotten serious about it yet.
I would never break the EULA by using it to accomplish any work - just that I often want to access files from home while at work.
Sounds like a PITA. The nice thing about LMI was that it worked without having to really think about it.
Give the google remote a shot. Seems to have less install headaches than Teamviewer.
Quote from: DCurry on January 23, 2014, 12:04:58 PMI would never break the EULA by using it to accomplish any work - just that I often want to access files from home while at work.
Sounds like a PITA. The nice thing about LMI was that it worked without having to really think about it.
It kinda is. You can set it to auto start at boot time but you still have the application icon on dock which means there is a good chance someone will close it. Chicken still works okay though you do have to open ports for it. And it tends to hang up now and again requiring a reboot which you can't do remotely once it hangs up so you are basically locked out until you can get the computer rebooted.
Quote from: Farabomb on January 23, 2014, 12:26:44 PMGive the google remote a shot. Seems to have less install headaches than Teamviewer.
I probably will. I've been trying to wean myself away from the goog but its tentacles seem to keep pulling me back.
Any idea why TeamViewer would be generating a new Login Password randomly? I've tried to get on a few times when something needs to be done only to be denied access. When I come in the next day & check the TeamViewer panel, the Remote Control password is totally different than what it should be. :huh:
Mainly because it sucks...
But seriously, go under the "Connect" menu and click on "Setup Unattended Access" and it will keep the password you assign there. I fought that bastard for a month before I figured that out.
Ah, ok! I'll try to remember Tuesday to do that, unless I get called in this weekend which a possibility. :rolleyes: Thanks!
The google desktop kinda works but it seems to be a lot slower than LogMein was. It may just be my slow connection up in the woods.
I have teamviewer installed as a backup but when I was testing it I really didn't like it for some reason.
The thing that aggravates me the most is that it is always shown running in the dock. I hate that for some reason.
That drives me nuts too. There is no reason to have to see the damn thing all day.
Well, I got the "Unattended Access" setup, thanks Joe! Works fine, and it's even pretty responsive from home once I disable the "Show Desktop Picture" and tweak the Display settings a little.
Only problem is, TeamViewer tends to "time out" when the Mac goes into Sleep Mode and can't connect. There's a Wake on LAN setting but it's not behaving either. I've resorted to either setting the Mac to Never Sleep under Energy Saver options, or using LogMeIn to wake the Mac up remotely then go into TeamViewer.
Yeah, Wake on LAN won't work because you are not on the LAN. You need Wake on WAN. And that is a problem for any Mac. The only way I know of is use something called Magic Packets which requires a complicated process with your router and opening some ports. Personally I would just turn sleep mode off for anything that doesn't use a battery. It causes more problems than it is worth.
I did find this that might help if you want to try it:
http://csabak.blogspot.com/2013/05/remote-controlling-home-pc-using.html (http://csabak.blogspot.com/2013/05/remote-controlling-home-pc-using.html)
and this:
http://www.overlooksoft.com/support/39-wol (http://www.overlooksoft.com/support/39-wol)
Quote from: Slappy on June 21, 2014, 03:19:37 PMor using LogMeIn to wake the Mac up remotely then go into TeamViewer.
I just noticed this...if you still have LogMeIn working why do you want to use TeamViewer?
Even though LogMeIn Free was supposed to stop working it hadn't when we installed TeamViewer. I tried it out of desperation the first time I had to get access one night, but prefer the way TeamViewer connects. LogMeIn makes me go their site, then DL the same damned application every single time I want access! So I'd wake the Mac then switch to TeamViewer. Stupid, I know but now that I stop it from going to Sleep at all it's not a problem.
Just spend a couple of hundred dollars it takes to get a VPN setup and be done with it. Once you have a VPN you can VNC/RDP wherever you want plus a whole host of other benefits. No matter what you are going to have to pay. So quit being cheap, do it right and eliminate the problem. Penny wise, pound foolish?
You do have a point and I may have to look into that.
They did release a app for chrome desktop for android. Had to use it this morning. It's not horrible but I don't think I can process a job with it.
Quote from: mattbeals on July 08, 2014, 01:42:27 AMJust spend a couple of hundred dollars it takes to get a VPN setup and be done with it. Once you have a VPN you can VNC/RDP wherever you want plus a whole host of other benefits. No matter what you are going to have to pay. So quit being cheap, do it right and eliminate the problem. Penny wise, pound foolish?
Ha!!! You say that like I have any control, valued input or influence whatsoever. You a funny guy Matt. :lmao:
I'm lucky where if I come up with something and pitch it correctly I have a very good chance of getting it. I'm going to start looking and will end up creating a new post for questions.
Quote from: mattbeals on July 08, 2014, 01:42:27 AMJust spend a couple of hundred dollars it takes to get a VPN setup and be done with it. Once you have a VPN you can VNC/RDP wherever you want plus a whole host of other benefits. No matter what you are going to have to pay. So quit being cheap, do it right and eliminate the problem. Penny wise, pound foolish?
Recommendations?
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_72_0?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A541966%2Ck%3Acisco+vpn+router%2Cp_89%3ACisco%2Cp_72%3A1248879011&keywords=cisco+vpn+router&ie=UTF8&qid=1404837818&rnid=1248877011 (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_72_0?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A541966%2Ck%3Acisco+vpn+router%2Cp_89%3ACisco%2Cp_72%3A1248879011&keywords=cisco+vpn+router&ie=UTF8&qid=1404837818&rnid=1248877011)
http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/result.aspx?key=vpn&wclsscat=&b=&p=&ctlgfilter=&searchscope=all&sr=1 (http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/result.aspx?key=vpn&wclsscat=&b=&p=&ctlgfilter=&searchscope=all&sr=1)
Cisco, Juniper, SonicWall, etc are all great brands with a variety of solutions depending on your needs. Much less expensive to implement now than it was a few years ago. Keeps getting less and less expensive.
If you want to be really frugal about it you can use tools like Untangle who has a free vpn as part of their free package. https://www.untangle.com/store/openvpn.html (https://www.untangle.com/store/openvpn.html)
Untangle also sells additional modules for various things like content filters, spam blockers, virus protection at the gateway, IP failover, load balancing, AD integration, caching proxy server, etc. Plus they have professional services to help get it up and running and stay running.
Yeah, This needs to be another post. I'm really considering doing this instead of jerking around with remote desktop.
Quote from: Farabomb on July 08, 2014, 12:06:52 PMYeah, This needs to be another post. I'm really considering doing this instead of jerking around with remote desktop.
The Untangle one looks interesting. If you start the project be sure to create a new thread so we can see how it goes. Depending on the workload this week after being off for a week I might try something too.
Edit: OK...I see you created the new thread here: VPN implementation (https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=8174.0)
And I even spelled it right.
I think...