We are contemplating finally moving to Acrobat DC.
We are running 11.0.20 right now on all 6 of our MacPro stations and our Windows 7 station.
We are also running Pitstop Workgroup Manager 2017 and have Pitstop Pro 2017 on all stations.
Five of the Mac Pro's are running OS 10.11.6 and one is on 10.6.8.
What are the pros and cons of moving to DC?
We have Adobe CC 2017 on all stations as well.
All advice and feedback is appreciated thank you!
Pro: 64-bit means it is quite a bit faster.
Con: Everything is not where it used to be so you will have to do some searching.
When they first released it I hated and it had a lot of nasty bugs but the updates have fixed the obvious bugs. But the bugs that Adobe calls features are never going to be fixed (shift+click with Output preview open creates a new sticky note instead of adding to a selection so you need to close output preview to add to a selection. That was in Acrobat XI too though so it isn't specific to DC). As in previous versions it still crashes if you open and close and re-open output preview and turn off separations but not quite as often.
I still like adding my most commonly used Pitstop tools across the main toolbar at the top of the screen. It does this fine but a lot of times when I launch Acrobat the Pitstop tools at the top are missing though the Acrobat tools are not. To get them back I have to go back in like I am going to add a new one and just and and delete a separator bar and save and the Pitstop tools come back.
There is also the issue of when first launching Acrobat the Pitstop selection tool does not work, i.e. you can't select anything. The fix for that is to open and close the 'About Pitstop Pro' window (OPTION+COMMAND+J) and then ENTER to close it. Then it works fine. Enfocus is aware of the issue and will have a fix at some point.
Thanks Joe.
Did you first start using DC in El Capitan?
If so does it run better in Sierra or any noticeable differences?
That is also on the list is moving the Macs to Sierra...maybe I should do that first.
All of our Macs are running very very well on 10.11.6.
Yes I started on El Capitan and it ran fine on it and it is running fine on Sierra also. We got new Macs when we went to Sierra though so the CPU was upgraded from an i5 to an i7 and the Ram doubled from 8 GB to 16 GB so naturally DC is much faster on the new hardware but we still have the old Macs that were upgraded to Sierra that are now running DC and it runs fine on it.
I know there are some that have complained about network issues with Sierra. One thing I found is as long as you are using the hosts file on the Mac I don't have any networking issues.
We have updated all our MacPro's with SSD's (a few are running with PCI Express SSD's) and upgraded Memory to 32GB.
Four of the MacPro's are the last towers that were made, I think 2012 the 3.33 6core models.
Two others are older 2008 and 2009 Towers but they still fly with OWC SSD's and upgraded memory.
However I think I may not see the full benefits of Sierra and DC on those two older Mac Pros.
You can't put Sierra on the 2008 and 2009 model. It is only compatible back to 2010 models of the Mac Pro.
Yeah, I have been looking into this off and on and it seems you can actually if you upgrade the firmware to 5;1.
Here is one thread and I have read many other success stories.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7690077?start=0&tstart=0
QuoteYou will need to create a patched installer and for updates you need to use a special update checker. Both freeware tools can be found.
Yeah there are usually hacks people come up with to get around that. I've found though that Apples specs are usually there for a reason and am not a fan of those hacks. Personally I would just have OS X 10.11 on them.
I agree with you Joe....but a part of me wants to try it on the 2009...LOL!! ;D
Funny thing is why does Apple allow my Mac to keep telling me to upgrade to Sierra if it is on the not compatible list...ughhh!!
:facepalm:
Quote from: RMPrepress on June 07, 2017, 08:47:26 AMFunny thing is why does Apple allow my Mac to keep telling me to upgrade to Sierra if it is on the not compatible list...ughhh!!
:facepalm:
To remind you to buy new hardware! :rotf:
One thing I hate, and it may be our iMac builds, is when I Overprint Preview & turn a color On/Off, the whole page "blinks" when toggling. Usually only on the first On/Off on any given page, but some times it happens 100% of the time - even working locally instead of on the Server.
Oh yeah, and you can't see Guides when drawing them!! They don't appear until you release the mouse click - SO irritating. I know you can double-click on the Ruler where you want them to be, but if you're lining a guide up to crops or an object that's pretty damned useless.
I saw a thread on the Adobe forum that goes back at least a year where they acknowledge it and say it's been submitted as a bug, still broke though. :banghead:
Sounds like I might want to wait...for what I have no idea?
Looks like the way DC behaves is here to stay. :vomit:
I don't like the new guides either, Pitstop has guides, I think it's in Design layout.
I'm not comfortable with them yet, so I don't use them. (Hard to get out of my comfort zone sometimes) :laugh:
You guys all have PitStop?
F-A-N-C-Y-!
Quote from: Slappy on June 07, 2017, 09:46:08 AMOh yeah, and you can't see Guides when drawing them!! They don't appear until you release the mouse click - SO irritating. I know you can double-click on the Ruler where you want them to be, but if you're lining a guide up to crops or an object that's pretty damned useless.
I saw a thread on the Adobe forum that goes back at least a year where they acknowledge it and say it's been submitted as a bug, still broke though. :banghead:
So you want to actually see what you are doing? Novel idea. :sarcasm:
Quote from: DigiCorn on June 07, 2017, 11:41:46 AMYou guys all have PitStop?
F-A-N-C-Y-!
to be honest I don't know how anyone survives without it. Yeah sure it is possible why why would anyone want to do everything the hard way? (I know it isn't your fault.)
Quote from: RMPrepress on June 07, 2017, 10:45:35 AMSounds like I might want to wait...for what I have no idea?
Looks like the way DC behaves is here to stay. :vomit:
Honestly the move to 64-bit is worth the upgrade. It can use as much memory as you have instead of being limited like any 32-bit app is (which is any version of Acrobat lower than DC). The speed improvement is worth it even with the cons listed previously.
Yes we have Pitstop Server 2013.... and Pitstop WM 2017 with 5 licenses of Pitstop Pro 2017.
To me it is absolutely worth it, like Joe said cant imagine not having it.
The WM is not necessary, however again to me it is worth it just to have one central place to control PP with and have every station including the PC functioning the same and no more worries about 5 different licenses is nice too.
On the DC front I am sure we will bite the bullet soon and start using it on at least one or two stations first.
So I don't have all the operators crying at once :cry: or coming after me!! :strangle:
Quote from: DigiCorn on June 07, 2017, 11:41:46 AMYou guys all have PitStop?
F-A-N-C-Y-!
LOL - that's like a fellow mechanic saying "you guys get a toolbox, with actual tools in it?"
No shit, Sherlock.
This is diverting a little bit from the topic but it goes back a couple of posts to Joe reminding me that Sierra is not supported on a 2008 or 2009 Mac Pro.
I mentioned a popular workaround discovered online....well it worked!!
Just be on the lookout for the ghost of Steve Jobs haunting you because it is not nice to fool Apple. ;)
I hear ya...I will be looking over my shoulder for a bit! :police:
I lost my toolbar what was the fix joe?
I went and added the spacebar but it didn't do anything
my quick tools aren't showing my tools either
Tracy, every now and then when I launch Acrobat DC the Pitstop plugin does not load. My fix is to quit Acrobat DC and re-start it. That sounds like what may be happening to you. One way to check is under the Acrobat menu does list Enfocus Pitstop Professional as one of the plug-ins that are loaded. If not do the above. If it is listed then it is something else. What d you mean by "added the spacebar"?
I thought you said you go to your customize quick tools and add a space icon?
My pitstop is working just lost my customized tool bar at the top
I'm super busy too, I will recreate it if it doesn't pop up
Never mind I found it!!
I had to show quick tools, sheesh
Thanks Joe
Oh yeah. I thought you meant you lost them from the Tools sidebar. I've never seen them disappear from there unless Pitstop doesn't load.
I never lost my toolbar before, Yeah my acro updated to the 2017
Quote from: Tracy on June 16, 2017, 11:52:57 AMI never lost my toolbar before, Yeah my acro updated to the 2017
Get used to it. It only gets worse once it starts happening. Right now every time I open Acrobat it is gone.
I can assure you, I see no such trouble without PitStop.
Quote from: DigiCorn on June 16, 2017, 01:18:36 PMI can assure you, I see no such trouble without PitStop.
You could install the trial and experience it for 30 days.
Quote from: Joe on June 16, 2017, 01:54:59 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on June 16, 2017, 01:18:36 PMI can assure you, I see no such trouble without PitStop.
You could install the trial and experience it for 30 days.
Maybe.
I don't want to feel left out.
FOMO...
it's all the rage
We have not decided if it is worth upgrading to Acrobat DC from Acrobat XI.
I take it that Acrobat DC is nothing more than Acrobat XI with a few "cloud" features?
It was pretty buggy at the start. I hated it. Adobe have most of the wrinkles ironed out by now except for the bugs they are calling features. Now that I am used to it I wouldn't want to go back to XI. And it is nothing like Acrobat XI. Completely different. Plus it is 64-bit on the Mac and got a pretty decent speed bump because of it.