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Tracy · August 29, 2011, 04:07:41 PM

I got a guy comin in to talk about Rampage
Any good questions I can ask?
I think Rampage uses the APPE?
and also Preps?

Joe · August 29, 2011, 04:31:29 PM

Quote from: Tracy on August 29, 2011, 04:07:41 PMI got a guy comin in to talk about Rampage
Any good questions I can ask?
I think Rampage uses the APPE?
and also Preps?

No, I don't believe it uses AdobePPE. I think Rampage has their own iteration of it. Sort of like RampagePPE. :laugh:

frailer · August 29, 2011, 04:37:59 PM

Yeah, 'Adobe compliant' was something that Fuji stressed when we were looking. Not to say that other PDF print Engines are no good, just that Adobe is the heavyweight.
If they do run their own inside, not sure how relevant the question 'How Adobe compliant is it?' would be. You may get a 'rep's answer' on that one. :laugh:

Skryber · August 29, 2011, 08:14:58 PM

What are you using now, Tracy?

Tracy · August 29, 2011, 08:38:15 PM

Brisque - Seriously

I'm looking at Prinergy, Xitron
and now Rampage
I really want to go with the Prinergy
but I'm having to look at all options.

Tracy · August 29, 2011, 08:40:52 PM

Quote from: frailer on August 29, 2011, 04:37:59 PMYeah, 'Adobe compliant' was something that Fuji stressed when we were looking. Not to say that other PDF print Engines are no good, just that Adobe is the heavyweight.
If they do run their own inside, not sure how relevant the question 'How Adobe compliant is it?' would be. You may get a 'rep's answer' on that one. :laugh:

yeah, one of my questions would be- what about when Adobe updates?

Joe · August 29, 2011, 08:58:55 PM

Quote from: Tracy on August 29, 2011, 08:40:52 PM
Quote from: frailer on August 29, 2011, 04:37:59 PMYeah, 'Adobe compliant' was something that Fuji stressed when we were looking. Not to say that other PDF print Engines are no good, just that Adobe is the heavyweight.
If they do run their own inside, not sure how relevant the question 'How Adobe compliant is it?' would be. You may get a 'rep's answer' on that one. :laugh:
yeah, one of my questions would be- what about when Adobe updates?

Kodak is not all that speedy updating APPE when Adobe updates it. You just have to wait for it to come down the pipe.

DigiCorn · August 30, 2011, 08:17:47 AM

Prinergy and Preps both being Kodak integrate well (I am sure). I have had some struggles with Rampage and Preps, but I do love Rampage because it's really all I know. I went from making poly plates with RIP IT to Scitex Brisque to Rampage, so I can't tell you if there is anything better.

Stiv · August 30, 2011, 11:39:51 AM

Is it Paul who will be there? Say Hi and ask him to get on-board here at B4.

I like Rampage, used a few others but not Prinergy.

Will you be using JDF?
Soft proofing?
What proofing devices will you have hooked up?
How many seats will be using Rampage at the same time?

mwc · August 30, 2011, 11:55:28 AM

Quote from: Tracy on August 29, 2011, 04:07:41 PMI got a guy comin in to talk about Rampage
Any good questions I can ask?
I think Rampage uses the APPE?
and also Preps?

Ask them what they do, what is the sole-focus of their company.
Ask them how large their customer base is, and what kind of customers they are? (small, large...sheetfed,web...).
Ask them how their support program works, and at what cost.
It will run preps or metrix or.....

DCurry · August 30, 2011, 11:58:56 AM

I've never used Rampage, but I have heard very good things about their support. I would be a little concerned about the fact that they don't use a true APPE. As complex as transparencies can be, I just prefer the idea that my rip uses a true Adobe engine.

I used an older version of Xitron, and didn't love it. Seemed clunky to me, but I'm sure it has improved over time. At my old shop I oversaw the switch from PSM/Brisque to a Prinergy setup and I was blown away. IMHO, Prinergy blows the doors off of everything I"ve ever used before or since. It's pricey and then of course you have to deal with Kodak (never had a problem with them, but others have had some issues), but it is really well thought out and it just seems to make sense. It is extremely flexible. Only got to use it for a year before I changed jobs.

Now I'm on Apogee. It's a solid choice as well, but I still would pick Prinergy given my druthers.

t-pat · August 30, 2011, 12:02:44 PM

I'll chime in, Prinergy (Evo or Connect) hands down. I've used Crosfield, Xitron, Apogee, and a bunch of other old junk. Prinergy will keep you safe and warm at night. As Dcurry says, very flexible. Kodak support has been great for me at 2 different shops using Prinergy.

Tracy · August 30, 2011, 01:35:16 PM

thank you so much
I have more questions to ask!
I hope it is a cool guy named Paul who is coming :smiley:

I'm hoping for Prinergy
I think the only way I will get it
is if anything else is too costly to hook up
to the trendsetter

thanks guys!

Joe · August 30, 2011, 02:30:13 PM

Quote from: Tracy on August 30, 2011, 01:35:16 PMthank you so much
I have more questions to ask!
I hope it is a cool guy named Paul who is coming :smiley:

I'm hoping for Prinergy
I think the only way I will get it
is if anything else is too costly to hook up
to the trendsetter

thanks guys!

Nothing will cost more than Prinergy. LOL

t-pat · August 30, 2011, 02:31:24 PM

the shop I am at has allegedly at least quadrupled the amount of work we're able to do without additional operators since getting Prinergy. Sell it as a payroll saver.

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