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Title: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: rickself on October 06, 2015, 12:06:54 PM
Anyone with experience printing something Hot Pink? We have a new client that I am designing donut boxes and he wants the lid to be hot pink. Is there a floeurescent ink in offset printing? Does he need to go to a silk screener?
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Farabomb on October 06, 2015, 12:22:45 PM
We did one job with some bright pink. The ink is available.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: born2print on October 06, 2015, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: Farabomb on October 06, 2015, 12:22:45 PMWe did one job with some bright pink. The ink is available.
Yep, we've used flourescents before, offset, pink included.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Farabomb on October 06, 2015, 12:28:22 PM
Like this?
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: rickself on October 06, 2015, 12:31:54 PM
Like that!
Who by chance made the ink and what's the color?
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Farabomb on October 06, 2015, 01:18:39 PM
I will get you the info tomorrow.

Ink came from hostmann steinberg, color 806C.

If I remember correctly we have coverage issues the first time. Went back on with 100%, a 60% kicker (at least I have the file, not sure of we used it.) I know it went on twice. I will ask my pressman tomorrow for more info.

I do notice on the sample here if you want a dark black, KO it and use a 4c breakdown. The one here is overprinting and has a pink cast to it.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Possum on October 06, 2015, 01:20:18 PM
Don't be surprised if the ink is really runny. We printed with a florescent color once a long time ago, and the pressman swore the whole time he ran the job, the ink just ran all over.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: rickself on October 06, 2015, 01:34:06 PM
Quote from: Possum on October 06, 2015, 01:20:18 PMDon't be surprised if the ink is really runny. We printed with a florescent color once a long time ago, and the pressman swore the whole time he ran the job, the ink just ran all over.
Oh good, I'm going to hand feed the pressman a reason to bitch. So I make sure it's the first job in the morning so it screws up his WHOLE day.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Farabomb on October 06, 2015, 01:56:01 PM
Heh, I got to ruin mine twice. He wasn't happy when I came out with it the second time.

Mainly because the boss told him to run it and he knew it was too light. The boss has final say, right or wrong. 
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Tracy on October 06, 2015, 02:34:30 PM
Quote from: rickself on October 06, 2015, 01:34:06 PM
Quote from: Possum on October 06, 2015, 01:20:18 PMDon't be surprised if the ink is really runny. We printed with a florescent color once a long time ago, and the pressman swore the whole time he ran the job, the ink just ran all over.
Oh good, I'm going to hand feed the pressman a reason to bitch. So I make sure it's the first job in the morning so it screws up his WHOLE day.
primadonna pressman?
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: David on October 06, 2015, 02:52:05 PM
there is no such animal....

all pressmen are lovable, huggable and most of all squeezable.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: rickself on October 06, 2015, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: david on October 06, 2015, 02:52:05 PMthere is no such animal....

all pressmen are lovable, huggable and most of all squeezable.
Former pressman in denial?
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Joe on October 06, 2015, 03:02:22 PM
Poor mans hot pink...MAGENTA! :rotf:
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Possum on October 06, 2015, 03:24:36 PM
I can top that. How about substituting Cornflower Blue for cyan? First four-color job for a two-color shop, didn't have cyan around.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Farabomb on October 07, 2015, 06:10:07 AM
Quote from: Joe on October 06, 2015, 03:02:22 PMPoor mans hot pink...MAGENTA! :rotf:

But it needs to POP!
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Fontaholic on October 07, 2015, 07:33:26 AM
Quote from: david on October 06, 2015, 02:52:05 PMthere is no such animal....

all pressmen are lovable, huggable and most of all squeezable.

Especially around the neck...

Cheers,
John the Fontaholic :drunk3:
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Joe on October 07, 2015, 09:09:49 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on October 07, 2015, 06:10:07 AM
Quote from: Joe on October 06, 2015, 03:02:22 PMPoor mans hot pink...MAGENTA! :rotf:

But it needs to POP!

Put a metal grid on the floor hooked up to 220 volts where the view it. When they step up to look at it flip the switch. That will make it POP!
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Farabomb on October 07, 2015, 09:23:57 AM
Oh, I like that idea. Might work for cranky pressmen too.

One time at the old shop there was a hole in the concrete. We filled it with clear epoxy but after putting a quarter in the hole. I saw many a person bend down to pick it up. The worst one was our stripper/QC guy. He was a good guy but cheap as all hell. I kept in contact with him after I left and eventually he left as well before the place collapsed. He got into the scrap metal/cleanout trade. He got the contract to clean out the shop after it went under.

I have a feeling he got that quarter in the end.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Joe on October 07, 2015, 09:33:45 AM
I know some people that would lose their mind over something like that. I mean they would literally not be able to sleep at night. I LOVE IT! I might have to try it at work.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Possum on October 07, 2015, 10:25:24 AM
Might be a good test for prospective employees. Walk the dude by the place a few times. If he keeps trying to pick it up, he forgot that he already saw it or he doesn't learn from his mistakes. Either way, you don't want him.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: rickself on October 07, 2015, 10:32:43 AM
The options are endless:
Do the quarter trick in the interview room for prospective hires, seated with their back to the door. Leave the room but watch though the open door;
or in the lunchroom, try Cheetos;
next to the press, a can of PBR.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Farabomb on October 07, 2015, 10:37:23 AM
You tricky little marsupial.

I like how you think.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: born2print on October 07, 2015, 10:52:38 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on October 07, 2015, 09:23:57 AMHe was a good guy but cheap as all hell.
That's how copper wire was invented, two guys like this found a penny at the same time.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Farabomb on October 07, 2015, 11:29:16 AM
How was the grand canyon formed?


One of those dudes dropped a nickel down a gopher hole.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Possum on October 07, 2015, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: rickself on October 07, 2015, 10:32:43 AMThe options are endless:
Do the quarter trick in the interview room for prospective hires, seated with their back to the door. Leave the room but watch though the open door;
or in the lunchroom, try Cheetos;
next to the press, a can of PBR.

Great opportunities for a hidden video cam also.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: born2print on October 07, 2015, 12:32:05 PM
We epoxied a quarter to the sidewalk once back when the shop was on Market St.
Gone the next morning.  :rotf:
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Possum on October 07, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
Any jack hammer marks around the spot?
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: born2print on October 07, 2015, 12:50:54 PM
Nope, just a note that said "So long and thanks for the crack"
 :sarcasm:

Seriously though, it was just plain gone!
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: swampymarsh on October 09, 2015, 02:52:23 AM
Somebody had to put this link up:

https://youtu.be/CxTaBD87z7o
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Farabomb on October 09, 2015, 06:45:39 AM
Talked to the pressman. We did use a 60% kicker. Ink consumption wasn't much different than any other spot color.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: rickself on October 09, 2015, 06:56:17 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on October 09, 2015, 06:45:39 AMTalked to the pressman. We did use a 60% kicker. Ink consumption wasn't much different than any other spot color.
Thanks - And that was just the 806C, not a fluorescent? Van Son 806C Fluorescent is $52.15 per pound!
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: Farabomb on October 09, 2015, 07:01:34 AM
That was the spec for the color and it's bright as hell. I do remember the boss bitching about the price of the ink.
Title: Re: Hot Pink Ink
Post by: rickself on October 09, 2015, 07:05:53 AM
Guess I'll start preparing to break the price to him. 4 color plus hot pink. 
:drunk3:
He originally quoted the job as a 2 color.  :hangme: