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Title: FTP download speed
Post by: frailer on December 19, 2011, 04:56:41 PM
needed to download a 750 MB file, from in-house dezingers. Time's kinda tight in showbiz; heat's on me here to get it into XMF. Got the signal it's on the site. Start download... 120KBits/sec. = 1 hour 48 mins estimated. GRRR...
Decide on a whim to abort, reconnect. now downloading at ~600 MBits/sec. >> 22 mins estimated.
OK the speed varies a little during download, but... is the ballpark speed of the pipe pretty much determined at time of hook-up, depending on traffic? someone may know the inner workings of FTProtocol. Curious, mainly, but shall certainly try a re-hookup again on a slow one.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Joe on December 19, 2011, 06:22:05 PM
Depends throughout the download on a number of the things including your connection, the connection at the other end and the connection of any server between the two. It's all a complicated crap shoot.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: t-pat on December 19, 2011, 06:29:02 PM
it has something to do with elves, I'm positive.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Joe on December 19, 2011, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: t-pat on December 19, 2011, 06:29:02 PMit has something to do with elves, I'm positive.

Maybe squirrels too.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: David on December 20, 2011, 08:09:43 AM
it's all a series of tubes, you know....

some of the tubes may be slightly clogged at times...
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: gnubler on December 20, 2011, 05:03:11 PM
Sneaky squirrels with clogged pipes?
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: t-pat on December 20, 2011, 05:12:41 PM
I'm thinking more like pipes clogged with squeaky squirrels, damn things get everywhere.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: frailer on December 20, 2011, 05:58:02 PM
Quote from: t-pat on December 20, 2011, 05:12:41 PMI'm thinking more like pipes clogged with squeaky squirrels, damn things get everywhere.

    Now it's starting to make sense.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: t-pat on December 20, 2011, 06:06:58 PM
Quote from: frailer on December 20, 2011, 05:58:02 PM
Quote from: t-pat on December 20, 2011, 05:12:41 PMI'm thinking more like pipes clogged with squeaky squirrels, damn things get everywhere.

    Now it's starting to make sense.

you don't have squirrels down there do you? I don't remember squirrels. Damn.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: frailer on December 20, 2011, 06:20:29 PM
We have effin' bandicoots. Dig holes in your lawn in the dead of night.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: t-pat on December 21, 2011, 12:48:16 AM
Quote from: frailer on December 20, 2011, 06:20:29 PMWe have effin' bandicoots. Dig holes in your lawn in the dead of night.

Cute but nothing like Treeus Ratticus, aka the n. American squrl. They are a living cartoon. They taunt cats and dogs, and old people feed them. Sometimes there will develop a colony of black ones. Those ones are extra scary.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on December 21, 2011, 06:25:34 AM
I always say it's like going down the highway... sometimes it's busy and sometimes you motor. If they crash, well you know what happens then.

But the fonts are like wide load trucks and can really slow things down. They used to be anyways, not sure if that's still true.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: DigiCorn on December 21, 2011, 10:53:10 AM
We currently have squirrels and gophers living in our yard. My old house in the Bay Area had possums, skunks and raccoons, in addition to the squirrels... no gophers there, tho.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: David on December 21, 2011, 11:22:05 AM
I got some rats if anybody needs one or two, or three.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: NefariousDrO on December 22, 2011, 10:40:28 AM
Quote from: t-pat on December 21, 2011, 12:48:16 AM
Quote from: frailer on December 20, 2011, 06:20:29 PMWe have effin' bandicoots. Dig holes in your lawn in the dead of night.

Cute but nothing like Treeus Ratticus, aka the n. American squrl. They are a living cartoon. They taunt cats and dogs, and old people feed them. Sometimes there will develop a colony of black ones. Those ones are extra scary.

My friend says that squirrels are the kind of crazy that sits in a tree and screams "I'll Cut you!!" at everything that passes by.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: mattbeals on January 25, 2012, 12:12:23 AM
The progress indicator is not necessarily a reliable way of judging speeds. As Joe said, the connection speed is dictated by the slowest link in the chain. That could be an internal or external link. Could be weather conditions if there is a satellite connection in there somewhere. Any noise in the line(s). How many milliseconds it takes between hops, etc. Oh, any any increase/decrease in capacity of any connection. Of course there's packet loss. Or if a connection goes down then it has to be re-routed.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: gnubler on January 25, 2012, 12:06:01 PM
So are you single now? :hello:
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Slappy on January 25, 2012, 01:55:53 PM
I went to DL the Preps 6 files that are kindly hosted on another member's FTP from work, and couldn't get over like 35kb/sec here.  :angry:

So, went home & on a wireless connection (802.11g no less) I got this:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/430620/Fios_DL_Speed.jpg)

 :cheesy:
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Farabomb on January 25, 2012, 02:02:27 PM
That looks familiar.  :grin:
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: t-pat on January 25, 2012, 02:30:00 PM
uneeda comcast business account at work

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1730384363.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Slappy on January 25, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
Nah, we're good with the dial-up. It's not like we have anybody trying to send us large files or anything.  :sarcasm:
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Ear on January 25, 2012, 05:01:03 PM
Quote from: t-pat on January 25, 2012, 02:30:00 PMuneeda comcast business account at work

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1730384363.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Sweet Fancy Moses!  :shocked: Le Drool
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: t-pat on January 25, 2012, 05:27:17 PM
Quote from: Earendil on January 25, 2012, 05:01:03 PM
Quote from: t-pat on January 25, 2012, 02:30:00 PMuneeda comcast business account at work

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1730384363.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Sweet Fancy Moses!  :shocked: Le Drool

yeah they've got the tech part of this operation covered. Pretty sure we don't have the common sense and skill part down though.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Ear on January 25, 2012, 05:41:28 PM
Here's mine. Not bad, but still only half of what you're getting... look, it's t-pat... he's gone plaid.

Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: t-pat on January 25, 2012, 05:45:51 PM
Quote from: Earendil on January 25, 2012, 05:41:28 PMHere's mine. Not bad, but still only half of what you're getting... look, it's t-pat... he's gone plaid.

Our cable modem fried already. We had to upgrade the Sonicwall too, the older one didn't support this speed.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Ear on January 25, 2012, 06:09:45 PM
That is my DSL, which is supposed to max out at at 50mps. I see it peaking above 40 momentarily during the test but averages out between 20-25. We also have a T-1 for a backup line but it is a crawler at 2mps.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Ear on January 25, 2012, 06:11:53 PM
Okay, the video watching mail department just went home, which seemed to gain me another 10mps on the DL.  :rolleyes:

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1730733491.png)
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: t-pat on January 25, 2012, 06:13:21 PM
Quote from: Earendil on January 25, 2012, 06:11:53 PMOkay, the video watching mail department just went home, which seemed to gain me another 10mps on the DL.  :rolleyes:

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1730733491.png)

keep tryin... I'll keep pshopping in higher numbers tho ;)
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Ear on January 25, 2012, 06:17:58 PM
 :cheesy: Whatevs. It's funny with the DSL vs T1. I can switch routers easily and run off either. DSL goes up and down depending on local traffic... I see it creep up on 50 sometimes and other times, it's down around 10. With the T1, it's always just under 2mps.... just slow and steady. Doesn't seem to matter how many people I have on. We had the DSL router go out one day and switched everyone over to T1 for a couple days.... just clocked along at 1.8.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Joe on January 25, 2012, 06:37:18 PM
The T1 is probably dedicated for just your workplace. At work we have a dedicated dual 1.5 T1. It's right at 3 MBPS constantly. (Was blazing fast at one time) Back when we were on 6 MBPS DSL it rarely made it to that speed and when the school kids all got out of school we were limping along at about dial up speed until their bedtime. Then we could use it again about 9 pm.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Farabomb on January 26, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
That makes no sense with the DSL. If it was cable I can understand seeing as that's shared but DSL shouldn't be. At least that's what I understood but I do see slowdowns with mine. Haven't figured out if it was just netflix or the service.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Joe on January 26, 2012, 10:12:24 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on January 26, 2012, 09:17:46 AMThat makes no sense with the DSL. If it was cable I can understand seeing as that's shared but DSL shouldn't be. At least that's what I understood but I do see slowdowns with mine. Haven't figured out if it was just netflix or the service.

Yeah I know the theory about number of users supposedly not affecting DSL...but in reality it does. The slowdown was like clockwork. As soon as the kids were released from school in the town you would see an instant slowdown. Bad enough to where sometimes you could not even display a web site in the browser. Then about 9 pm it would all come back. The provider could never explain nor fix it which is why we moved to the slower and much more expensive dedicated dual T1. Haven't had that problem since we switched.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Ear on January 26, 2012, 11:24:39 AM
Tortoise and the Hare. Fast and fickle vs slow and steady.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: mattbeals on February 01, 2012, 08:29:46 PM
Peak periods are peak periods. Your DSL connection may be rated at 8192Mb/sec and connect at that speed. But that speed is generally the connection speed to the ISP and not to any point on the internet, Eventually all the DSL circuits get aggregated. Cable just happens to do the aggregation closer to the neighborhood.

Try running a traceroute (Mac) or tracert (windows) from your computer to google.com and www.b4print.com (https://www.b4print.com). all those "hops" have speed and capacity limits that affect your speeds.
Title: Re: FTP download speed
Post by: Joe on February 01, 2012, 09:14:55 PM
Thanks for that explanation Matt. Makes sense to me.