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Title: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on February 22, 2019, 09:49:05 AM
Here's a doozy,

Anyone ever had any experience in the realm of printing that silver stuff you see on scratch and win cards?

I've had a request to find out more information of all the details of uv drying etc. etc. etc.

The cards will be printed litho with variable numbers imprinted for numbers, passwords etc. and the owner wants to figure out if the whole thing can be done in house including the silver stuff on top.



Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: David on February 22, 2019, 10:17:19 AM
yepper, been there done that.
At current place, we silkscreen Scratch off ink on top of the hidden part, using of course special scratch off ink.
You may need to put a UV coat down first to protect the hidden part before applying the scratch off ink in some cases

Here's a web site that actually has good tips for doing this:

Scratch Off Tips (https://www.prismtechgraphics.com/blog/6-tips-for-a-successful-scratch-off-ink-project)
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: Santa on February 22, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
We did a few of these back in the day by applying a wafer seal type sticker that had the silver already printed on top of it. They were short run, a few thousand.

Site is https://myscratchoffs.com
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on February 22, 2019, 11:36:23 AM
I think we're looking at 6 million cards.......that could take awhile.

Thanks anyways!
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: Tracy on February 22, 2019, 12:09:54 PM
We do train tickets same thing, we use an outside vendor for all the coatings etc..
they print a number on top of the silver coating also
pretty elaborate for a train ticket Foil, UV too
then all the tickets get numbered

I think you have to be really mindful of the silver, we have seen just the tickets rubbing against each other
can rub off the silver if it's not done properly.
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: AaronH on February 22, 2019, 02:01:21 PM
I believe when we did the scratch off thing, we foiled it on our letterpress. Otherwise we did the same thing, print litho, imprint the variable numbers off our Xerox then foil stamp the scratch off foil. Pretty snazzy.
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: Tracy on February 22, 2019, 02:15:04 PM
oooh! Letter press!
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: DPSprint on February 24, 2019, 12:15:04 PM
we do these with some tickets, digitally printed, variable data and then screen printed silver scratch panel... and yes it can scratch easily (obviously!) so has to be treated carefully when trimmed. such a fun job... NOT!
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: DigiCorn on February 25, 2019, 03:03:54 PM
We've manually applied pre-coated scratch-off stickers to cards in the past
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: Possum on February 26, 2019, 10:55:12 AM
The only time I worked at a place that printed these was a one-time deal. A guy brought them pre-printed, all we had to do was print the silver part. The numbers were all the same, supposedly except for one.
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: wonderings on February 27, 2019, 02:10:16 PM
Like others we outsource the scratch part of the ticket. Everything else we do in house. Not worth it for us for the one job once or twice a year that we get it.
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on March 06, 2019, 02:28:45 PM
Soooo, the boss wants to print the silver scratch and win ink and print them on the card litho.

Told him nobody does it. He says he thinks it can be done.
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: Slappy on March 06, 2019, 07:11:40 PM
Let us know how long it takes to wash up from THAT mess!!  :lmao:
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on March 07, 2019, 07:35:56 AM
Yes, and then run a job the next day 4CP.

Client gets the job with silver blotches all over. How did that happen?
Title: Re: Printing scratch and win cards
Post by: Rabid on April 25, 2019, 09:37:11 AM
We used to do these the same as others: offset the shell portion, digitally imprint the variable and then send it out for someone else to apply the coating.
The one thing we had to do was not print a varnish where the scratch adheres.