Leopard Under The Hood And Requirements Analysis

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Joe

#15
November 01, 2007, 01:19:46 PM
Quote from: kermit on November 01, 2007, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: Joe on November 01, 2007, 12:59:11 PMI've got a brand spanking new 250 gb SATA drive for my G5 just begging for a Leopard install!
Do you have MacPro? Can you download and run XBench on it now? In Tiger and later in Leo. Can you tell me CPU number and overall score?
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16231

Yes, it is a MacPro. I'll try it if I get a chance to install Leo on it tonight.
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Joe

#16
November 01, 2007, 01:21:52 PM
Quote from: kermit on November 01, 2007, 01:15:25 PMMy Leo iMac 2.16 with 3GB RAM was 124.97 as CPU and 125.58 overall before Leo it was 111.88 for CPU and 124.98 overall.

I've got the exact same iMac configuration as you. I'll have to throw Xbench on it and see if the scores are close.

124.97 as CPU and 125.58 overall was with Leo, correct?

And 111.88 for CPU and 124.98 overall was with Tiger (or Panther)?
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kermit

#17
November 01, 2007, 01:23:58 PM
Quote from: Joe on November 01, 2007, 01:21:52 PM
Quote from: kermit on November 01, 2007, 01:15:25 PMMy Leo iMac 2.16 with 3GB RAM was 124.97 as CPU and 125.58 overall before Leo it was 111.88 for CPU and 124.98 overall.

I've got the exact same iMac configuration as you. I'll have to throw Xbench on it and see if the scores are close.

124.97 as CPU and 125.58 overall was with Leo, correct?

And 111.88 for CPU and 124.98 overall was with Tiger (or Panther)?
Correct. Second was with Tiger 10.4.10
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Joe

#18
November 01, 2007, 09:46:45 PM
Same type of XBench results on my PowerMac G5:

Tiger -       CPU: 87.62     Overall: 63.80  (Not a fresh install at all)

Leopard -   CPU: 78.75     Overall: 47.41  (Fresh install)

I suppose that is Apples way to get everyone to buy new Intel powered Macs. :(
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#19
November 02, 2007, 01:20:50 AM
XBench results on my iMac 2.16 gHz dual core with 3 GB of RAM:

Tiger -       CPU: 108.89     Overall: 117.56  (Not a fresh install at all)

Leopard -   CPU: 124.08     Overall: 120.87  (Fresh install)

I would conclude that on the Intel Chip the modest performance gain is probably due to the fact the Leopard install is a fresh install while the Tiger install is not fresh.

On the PowerPC side the conspiracy theorist in me concludes Apple has probably throttled down the performance to drive consumers to buy new Intel powered Macs (ICBM's as Jezza would say. That still cracks me up)  ;D

The rational side tells me the performance hit on the Power PC side is probably due to the fact Apple spent a lot more time optimizing it for the Intel chips and taking advantage of the dual core chips capabilities.

I would not put Leopard on a G4 and probably on very few G5's.
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jezza

#20
November 02, 2007, 02:09:18 AM Last Edit: November 02, 2007, 08:11:31 AM by jezza
I'm not sure about throttling back, probably just a by product of optimization. You can't really blame apple for that, obviously it's in their interests that people go buy an ICBM ( :D )

If a get me ld mac back (T-Book) and it isn't a complete right off (as I have been told it is) then it will have a clean install of tiger and I'll let you know...

fek, I meant Leopard
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kermit

#21
November 02, 2007, 08:06:00 AM Last Edit: November 02, 2007, 08:08:22 AM by kermit
Quote from: jezza on November 02, 2007, 02:09:18 AMI'm not sure about throttling back, probably just a by product of optimization. You can't really blame apple for that, obviously it's in their interests that people go buy an ICBM ( :D )
In my interest too as I am Apple stock holder since it was $34/share. Go APPLE!!! Go iPhone in Europe and Asia!!!
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Joe

#22
November 02, 2007, 09:18:23 AM
Quote from: jezza on November 02, 2007, 02:09:18 AMI'm not sure about throttling back, probably just a by product of optimization. You can't really blame apple for that, obviously it's in their interests that people go buy an ICBM ( :D )

Oh come on now...a little conspiracy theory never hurt anyone. ;D
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kermit

#23
November 02, 2007, 12:23:38 PM
Just installed on my MBP 2.33 (3GB RAM) - cpu score 132 with Leo and 112 with Tiger. I love spaces...
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G_Town

#24
November 20, 2007, 06:47:45 AM
Crap, looks like I'll be reinstalling tiger on my G4 IB.

 :P

kermit

#25
November 20, 2007, 08:23:55 AM
Quote from: G_Town on November 20, 2007, 06:47:45 AMCrap, looks like I'll be reinstalling tiger on my G4 IB.

 :P
Or wait for Santa. Have you been a Good Boy?
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G_Town

#26
November 20, 2007, 08:35:03 AM
Quote from: kermit on November 20, 2007, 08:23:55 AM
Quote from: G_Town on November 20, 2007, 06:47:45 AMCrap, looks like I'll be reinstalling tiger on my G4 IB.

 :P
Or wait for Santa. Have you been a Good Boy?

Santa already fronted me a new Intel Imac, and I ain't been that good ;)

kermit

#27
November 20, 2007, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: G_Town on November 20, 2007, 08:35:03 AMSanta already fronted me a new Intel Imac, and I ain't been that good ;)
Maybe you shouldn't drink on the job?
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G_Town

#28
November 20, 2007, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: kermit on November 20, 2007, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: G_Town on November 20, 2007, 08:35:03 AMSanta already fronted me a new Intel Imac, and I ain't been that good ;)
Maybe you shouldn't drink on the job?

Huh?

Not here they drug test :P

Sparky

#29
November 21, 2007, 06:45:05 PM
Ms Claus already gave me my new iMac 24" 2.8 dual extreme, 2gb RAM 8)

Here's my results

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