http://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml (http://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml)
Boss wants me to find out about doing yearbooks. Customer (school) gets use of the software, they send us files to print. Apparently this software can output layered PSDs, flattened TIFFs, or PDFs to be uploaded to us from the customer. Free trial on the software - actual price is unknown and licensed per school.
Anyone experienced with this or something similar before I attempt to download and run the trial?
Quote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 03:43:19 PMhttp://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml (http://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml)
Boss wants me to find out about doing yearbooks. Customer (school) gets use of the software, they send us files to print. Apparently this software can output layered PSDs, flattened TIFFs, or PDFs to be uploaded to us from the customer. Free trial on the software - actual price is unknown and licensed per school.
Anyone experienced with this or something similar before I attempt to download and run the trial?
I'll bet a dollar the files you get suck. :wink:
Yup. I was trying to keep the sarcasm out of my original post.
Quote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 04:54:35 PMYup. I was trying to keep the sarcasm out of my original post.
I'm shocked you didn't recommend PAP to them.
But back on topic...No, I have no experience with that software.
Quote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 04:43:46 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 03:43:19 PMhttp://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml (http://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml)
Boss wants me to find out about doing yearbooks. Customer (school) gets use of the software, they send us files to print. Apparently this software can output layered PSDs, flattened TIFFs, or PDFs to be uploaded to us from the customer. Free trial on the software - actual price is unknown and licensed per school.
Anyone experienced with this or something similar before I attempt to download and run the trial?
I'll bet a dollar the files you get suck. :wink:
Negative Joe is negative.
Quote from: youston on May 20, 2010, 04:57:17 PMQuote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 04:43:46 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 03:43:19 PMhttp://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml (http://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml)
Boss wants me to find out about doing yearbooks. Customer (school) gets use of the software, they send us files to print. Apparently this software can output layered PSDs, flattened TIFFs, or PDFs to be uploaded to us from the customer. Free trial on the software - actual price is unknown and licensed per school.
Anyone experienced with this or something similar before I attempt to download and run the trial?
I'll bet a dollar the files you get suck. :wink:
Negative Joe is negative.
So you are wanting to bet the files are pristine and trouble free? How much are we talking here? I need a lot of DVR equipment ya know...
Quote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 05:09:33 PMQuote from: youston on May 20, 2010, 04:57:17 PMQuote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 04:43:46 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 03:43:19 PMhttp://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml (http://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml)
Boss wants me to find out about doing yearbooks. Customer (school) gets use of the software, they send us files to print. Apparently this software can output layered PSDs, flattened TIFFs, or PDFs to be uploaded to us from the customer. Free trial on the software - actual price is unknown and licensed per school.
Anyone experienced with this or something similar before I attempt to download and run the trial?
I'll bet a dollar the files you get suck. :wink:
Negative Joe is negative.
So you are wanting to bet the files are pristine and trouble free? How much are we talking here? I need a lot of DVR equipment ya know...
No, I'd pretty much expect them to be crap, as well. But I'd
hope they'd be okay. :angel:
Quote from: youston on May 20, 2010, 05:22:19 PMQuote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 05:09:33 PMQuote from: youston on May 20, 2010, 04:57:17 PMQuote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 04:43:46 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 03:43:19 PMhttp://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml (http://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml)
Boss wants me to find out about doing yearbooks. Customer (school) gets use of the software, they send us files to print. Apparently this software can output layered PSDs, flattened TIFFs, or PDFs to be uploaded to us from the customer. Free trial on the software - actual price is unknown and licensed per school.
Anyone experienced with this or something similar before I attempt to download and run the trial?
I'll bet a dollar the files you get suck. :wink:
Negative Joe is negative.
So you are wanting to bet the files are pristine and trouble free? How much are we talking here? I need a lot of DVR equipment ya know...
No, I'd pretty much expect them to be crap, as well. But I'd hope they'd be okay. :angel:
I do
hope they are OK too. For gnubler.
Quote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 05:43:26 PMQuote from: youston on May 20, 2010, 05:22:19 PMQuote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 05:09:33 PMQuote from: youston on May 20, 2010, 04:57:17 PMQuote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 04:43:46 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 03:43:19 PMhttp://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml (http://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml)
Boss wants me to find out about doing yearbooks. Customer (school) gets use of the software, they send us files to print. Apparently this software can output layered PSDs, flattened TIFFs, or PDFs to be uploaded to us from the customer. Free trial on the software - actual price is unknown and licensed per school.
Anyone experienced with this or something similar before I attempt to download and run the trial?
I'll bet a dollar the files you get suck. :wink:
Negative Joe is negative.
So you are wanting to bet the files are pristine and trouble free? How much are we talking here? I need a lot of DVR equipment ya know...
No, I'd pretty much expect them to be crap, as well. But I'd hope they'd be okay. :angel:
I do hope they are OK too. For gnubler.
But the difference is that I would have lied to gnubler and said it would be awesome so that he experiences that crushing sense of defeat when they're low-res rgb crap. That's what DCS has taught me. :evil:
Edit: gender confusion. fixed now.
Quote from: youston on May 20, 2010, 06:38:14 PMQuote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 05:43:26 PMQuote from: youston on May 20, 2010, 05:22:19 PMQuote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 05:09:33 PMQuote from: youston on May 20, 2010, 04:57:17 PMQuote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 04:43:46 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 03:43:19 PMhttp://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml (http://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml)
Boss wants me to find out about doing yearbooks. Customer (school) gets use of the software, they send us files to print. Apparently this software can output layered PSDs, flattened TIFFs, or PDFs to be uploaded to us from the customer. Free trial on the software - actual price is unknown and licensed per school.
Anyone experienced with this or something similar before I attempt to download and run the trial?
I'll bet a dollar the files you get suck. :wink:
Negative Joe is negative.
So you are wanting to bet the files are pristine and trouble free? How much are we talking here? I need a lot of DVR equipment ya know...
No, I'd pretty much expect them to be crap, as well. But I'd hope they'd be okay. :angel:
I do hope they are OK too. For gnubler.
But the difference is that I would have lied to gnubler and said it would be awesome so that he experiences that crushing sense of defeat when they're low-res rgb crap. That's what DCS has taught me. :evil:
Edit: gender confusion. fixed now.
You see, you can teach an old dog new tricks. Thanks.
You know that no matter what the photos that the students send in will be crap. We at one time did a yearbook of new students for a local college and it seems that the students always sent in the worst photo of themselves. Sometimes they sent a print off their cheap crappy printer at home.
This is exactly what I expected to hear - now I can breathe. I was asked by the Boss to find out about it and now I'm done. I wish they'd just list the cost of the software & its licenses right on the website so I wouldn't have to go through all of this "research". I was asked how a photographer could take 800 pictures of students, give us the images, and we match the correct name from a database file to the picture. I said "uhhhh..." and agreed to look into it.
Quote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 09:06:54 PMThis is exactly what I expected to hear - now I can breathe. I was asked by the Boss to find out about it and now I'm done. I wish they'd just list the cost of the software & its licenses right on the website so I wouldn't have to go through all of this "research". I was asked how a photographer could take 800 pictures of students, give us the images, and we match the correct name from a database file to the picture. I said "uhhhh..." and agreed to look into it.
That's actually pretty easy to pull off, but you need to have some vdp software like darwin or xmpie (and there are tons of others). InDesign might even do it, but I'm not really all that familiar with its variable capabilities.
The only problem is if the photographer typed the data into the db wrong ... I've had that happen more than a few times, where db entries don't match up with file names.
What kind of database is it? Are the images actually stored in the database?
Quote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 09:28:44 PMWhat kind of database is it? Are the images actually stored in the database?
No idea. It's all speculative. I was presented with the scenario that a photographer would go to a school and take pictures of all the students and then...I don't know what. How would a batch of images from a digital cam be matched with a database list of the student names? This is what I was asked and I didn't have an answer. Not sure who would be responsible for what.
Quote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 09:28:44 PMWhat kind of database is it? Are the images actually stored in the database?
I usually get a folder of images, and a database that contains the name of the file for each individual record. You just have to append that file name with the network path, or point your vdp software at the folder that contains the images, and any decent vdp software should be able to retrieve the image and place it on the page. Depending upon what you're using, it might be tricky to have the software impose multiple records on the same page, but you can manage it with a combination of tweaking the structure of the db and some programming on the vdp side.
Prolly set the layout up as a table, and have the records inserted that way, too.
Quote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 09:36:19 PMQuote from: Joe on May 20, 2010, 09:28:44 PMWhat kind of database is it? Are the images actually stored in the database?
No idea. It's all speculative. I was presented with the scenario that a photographer would go to a school and take pictures of all the students and then...I don't know what. How would a batch of images from a digital cam be matched with a database list of the student names? This is what I was asked and I didn't have an answer. Not sure who would be responsible for what.
The photographer would have to be responsible for providing you with a list of names and the file names that correlate to them.
I will defer to the db guy...youston. whatever he says...I agree with. As far as databases go anyway. :laugh:
Yes, sir!
This potential project came back into the picture today. I've dissuaded the possibility of using any sort of the aforementioned yearbook software for all the bad reasons.
The project we might get is a directory for an organization. Apparently, about a year ago a photographer took mugshots of over 1,000 members of this org and nothing's progressed, so the org is ready to just hand over all the images to us to start getting the directory set up. They want a yearbook style with each person's mug and their name below. The photographer had started somehow linking each image with the correct name, but somewhere along the line *something* happened and the list is off.
My suggestions:
1. I set up the entire layout in Indy, save as PDF, create form fields in the PDF where the org can just type in each name under the picture. PDF comes back and is more or less press ready.
2. Same deal, but set it up in Word.
3. Publisher. :holdme:
What do the Masters think?
I was looking at a few yearbook software sites and saw this:
QuoteCustom design layouts, templates, and clip arts to help reduce potential layout erros
Someone call the cops, please.
And this:
QuotePSPA is more of a standard for exchanging digital photographs for school
photography processing. PSPA defines a set of criteria for
sorting/storing images as well as the image content itself to a certain
degree.
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I've never been a fan of using form fields for print material. :puke2:
So they no longer have the list linked to image? If not it's not going to be much fun.
Quote from: Joe on June 29, 2010, 11:51:27 AMI've never been a fan of using form fields for print material. :puke2:
No? I will have to do some experimenting. I mean, if the peoples' names are just in 8 or 10pt Helvetica or Arial under their picture it *should* be fine, shouldn't it?
Please detail your lack of love.
They might work better now with the current crop of workflows. I haven't dealt with any in about two years but we used to get ads that had form fields that the ad agency would change dates, coupon codes, etc. Back then we were still using Nexus and any PDF that had form fields with text in them would get rejected by Nexus. I always had to delete the form fields, place the PDF in Indy and reset the type. It very well could be better now but it turned me against form fields in print PDF's for life.
Thanks for the tip. I'm going to create a test file and send it to my RIP, see what happens. I'll put your name in one of the form fields for good luck. :kiss:
Careful now, that could destroy a RIP.
Speaking of your name, I was going through a job folder here and found a biz card with your name on it. I didn't know you were an opthamologist on the side. I would think that would be more profitable than prepress...you must just love the craft. :laugh:
I do get stuff addressed as Dr. every now and then. But no one is paying me for it.
hmmm, Dr. Joe...
has a nice ring to it, could be a new tv series
Sounds like a pimp name. :cheesy:
Here ya go...my test file.
I think my monitor just cracked in half.
That's too bad, because it just went through my RIP without any issues.
Quote from: gnubler on June 29, 2010, 11:06:58 AMThis potential project came back into the picture today. I've dissuaded the possibility of using any sort of the aforementioned yearbook software for all the bad reasons.
And it's back again...
Does anyone here do yearbook/directory printing?
Quote from: gnubler on May 20, 2010, 03:43:19 PMhttp://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml (http://www.lumapix.com/yearbook/ybk_overview.shtml)
Oh FFS...
QuoteIt streamlines the process of creating yearbooks, church directories, and other database-driven album types.
:cry:
As close as we come to a yearbook is publishing photos from area schools at graduation time and there are a lot of them. We do it the old fashioned way of manual labor. Scanning, correcting, and placing into InDesign. By we I don't mean me though.
We are looking for software that schools can use to put together their own yearbook, then supply us with PDFs.
Maybe PAP has a plugin for it.
I don't... and by I, I mean me, which I don't....
I can send you my link for my free copy of Quark 9 you can give them... :dev2:
Quote from: gnubler on April 13, 2011, 11:05:05 AMWe are looking for software that schools can use to put together their own yearbook, then supply us with PDFs.
Maybe PAP has a plugin for it.
Quark can do this and then create a website to link it all together. http://www.quark.com (http://www.quark.com) :sarcasm:
You are a sadist. :whip:
Damnit!!! David beat me to it.
Quark 9, it's better than...
hmmm, better than a lot of stuff, eh, most other stuff, well, maybe, some stuff, not sure what tho.
Quote from: gnubler on April 13, 2011, 10:13:16 AMDoes anyone here do yearbook/directory printing?
directories, school newsletters, and some other stuff like that. Don't tell anyone. School stuff is worse than wedding invitations.
It's not better than quark 4.
So you have Quark 9 and have done a side by side comparison with Quark 4?
You just don't know. Quark 9 just might draw a warm bath for you after a hard day and then massage your feet before you go to sleep.
Quote from: tpatterson on April 13, 2011, 11:18:30 AMQuote from: gnubler on April 13, 2011, 10:13:16 AMDoes anyone here do yearbook/directory printing?
directories, school newsletters, and some other stuff like that. Don't tell anyone. School stuff is worse than wedding invitations.
I agree with this. School stuff is usually horrid work.
ohh, I may want to save the free copy of quark 9 for myself, it sounds fun!
warm bath here I come!
Quote from: tpatterson on April 13, 2011, 11:18:30 AMSchool stuff is worse than wedding invitations.
The evil trio of school stuff, church newsletters, and wedding invitations. I do them all. :puke2:
There's nothing like mixing a prepress tech with the delicate desires of a bride-to-be.
funeral memorial programs also rank up there with the worst..
...and anything done for a realtor who just walks in off the street and says she "wants some postcards printed up" :death:
Don't get me started on car dealers. :death:
hey Joe, how do you feel about Car dealers?
I love them...to DEATH preferably.
Funny, that's how I feel about car dealers. I take it clipping hundreds of cars from their backgrounds is also your favorite pasttime?
Quote from: gnubler on April 13, 2011, 12:31:22 PMFunny, that's how I feel about car dealers. I take it clipping hundreds of cars from their backgrounds is also your favorite pasttime?
That is so old fashioned. The "in" thing now is to just loosely cut around them like a 3 year old with a pair of scissors.
PB's getting back into Prepress?
No, he went corporate - pants & all. :angry:
Quote from: Joe on April 13, 2011, 12:15:47 PMDon't get me started on car dealers. :death:
we have several car dealers, and the marketing company that does national shit for GM/Chevy sends us some work. Mostly variable data/hybrid litho-digital and they're INSANE.
Funeral announcements seemed fun, the only place I saw that did them, did ONLY funeral announcements. They were all letterpress too, so like a history lesson. And all the guys there were baked.
Quote from: tpatterson on April 13, 2011, 03:44:32 PMAnd all the guys there were baked.
Like the guys in sign shops? DCS can elaborate.
Quote from: gnubler on June 30, 2010, 10:59:29 AMThat's too bad, because it just went through my RIP without any issues.
There is a great deal of simplification to the process. There are built in safeguards in the software as well as a standard for importing database information.
The tools exist, if you would like to know more, let me know