http://vimeo.com/15032988 (http://vimeo.com/15032988)
Linotype: The Film is a documentary about Ottmar Mergenthaler's amazing Linotype typesetting machine and the people who own and love these machines today.
:old:
Cool...
Thanks for the post! Will have to check that out.
...always loved the name "mergenthaler".
Sounds so...so...TOUGH.
"I am Mergenthaler, do not F with me" :laugh:
Funny, that's my last name! :punchy:
Quote from: gnubler on October 26, 2011, 01:38:03 PMFunny, that's my last name! :punchy:
Ditto-ditto. :mrt:
Quote from: gnubler on October 26, 2011, 01:38:03 PMFunny, that's my last name! :punchy:
John Jacob Mergenthaler-Smith?
Quote from: born2print on October 26, 2011, 02:00:34 PMQuote from: gnubler on October 26, 2011, 01:38:03 PMFunny, that's my last name! :punchy:
John Jacob Mergenthaler-Smith?
No. His Highness Sir gnubler Mergenthaler.
You can just call me "High" for short. :hello:
Quote from: Stiv on October 26, 2011, 09:27:20 AMhttp://vimeo.com/15032988 (http://vimeo.com/15032988)
Linotype: The Film is a documentary about Ottmar Mergenthaler's amazing Linotype typesetting machine and the people who own and love these machines today.
:old:
Those were pretty neat machines to operate.
I got into printing as a hobby in jr high school setting type from type trays, then went to community college and worked a linotype machine. Almost got my finger ripped off in the machine and replaced with hot lead one day. Twas bout that time the MacPlus came around. Thank God for THAT! Now I'm in prepress and still trying to figure out what happened.
Cool! They hope to release it early in 2112:
http://linotypefilm.com/screenings.php (http://linotypefilm.com/screenings.php)
A little before my time....
I will say, the Lino 330 was the absolute epitome of imagesetters. Loved that machine. Not a finer machine of that type in existence; a total workhorse.
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 02:40:38 PMA little before my time....
I will say, the Lino 330 was the absolute epitome of imagesetters. Loved that machine. Not a finer machine of that type in existence; a total workhorse.
The 3030 was a beast and weighed more than a tank. Good times.
I'll never forget when the typeshop I was at bought an early postscript imagesetter, around 1989 (not a Lino, however) and the young smartass salesman threw a floppy at me and said: "Lino this, quick!"
Glad that "verb" didn't stick around too long!
Quote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 02:51:58 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 02:40:38 PMA little before my time....
I will say, the Lino 330 was the absolute epitome of imagesetters. Loved that machine. Not a finer machine of that type in existence; a total workhorse.
The 3030 was a beast and weighed more than a tank. Good times.
Never used anything larger then the 560, (18" film). Service Bureau days, large format film was not in huge demand here.
We used to output fully imposed flats from Quark 3. Output film, burn plates, so long traditional strippers.
Quote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:06:04 PMWe used to output fully imposed flats from Quark 3. Output film, burn plates, so long traditional strippers.
We could do half sheets on 18", but strippers used to bitch about registration. And so ended the use of all capstan imagesetters.
Quote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 02:51:58 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 02:40:38 PMA little before my time....
I will say, the Lino 330 was the absolute epitome of imagesetters. Loved that machine. Not a finer machine of that type in existence; a total workhorse.
The 3030 was a beast and weighed more than a tank. Good times.
Wow, I did not that you were that old, I mean experienced.
Quote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 03:16:24 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 02:51:58 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 02:40:38 PMA little before my time....
I will say, the Lino 330 was the absolute epitome of imagesetters. Loved that machine. Not a finer machine of that type in existence; a total workhorse.
The 3030 was a beast and weighed more than a tank. Good times.
Wow, I did not that you were that old, I mean experienced.
He's pretty fucking old. :tongue:
Registration was fine on them as long as you didn't use its own register marks. We used to manually make marks on our Hell Chromacom system and place them on the page. Then the registration was perfect.
Quote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 03:16:24 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 02:51:58 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 02:40:38 PMA little before my time....
I will say, the Lino 330 was the absolute epitome of imagesetters. Loved that machine. Not a finer machine of that type in existence; a total workhorse.
The 3030 was a beast and weighed more than a tank. Good times.
Wow, I did not that you were that old, I mean experienced.
Me and dirt are good friends. Grew up together.
Quote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:25:53 PMRegistration was fine on them as long as you didn't use its own register marks. We used to manually make marks on our Hell Chromacom system and place them on the page. Then the registration was perfect.
Yeah, tell an 86 year-old stripper to NOT use the marks on the film... hahahahah! I didn't care, we were a Service Bureau. The film rarely registered on a capstan imagesetter. Always a hair off... always. Film stretch being pulled though a processor wet, or running long galleys of film. I never had a problem, but I didn't have to strip anything off it. By the time I got into stripping, I was using film off a drum imagesetter by then, Scitex PS2.
Quote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:27:05 PMQuote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 03:16:24 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 02:51:58 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 02:40:38 PMA little before my time....
I will say, the Lino 330 was the absolute epitome of imagesetters. Loved that machine. Not a finer machine of that type in existence; a total workhorse.
The 3030 was a beast and weighed more than a tank. Good times.
Wow, I did not that you were that old, I mean experienced.
Me and dirt are good friends. Grew up together.
So I take it you helped Moses put the ten commandments on the stone tablets.
Quote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 03:33:16 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:27:05 PMQuote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 03:16:24 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 02:51:58 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 02:40:38 PMA little before my time....
I will say, the Lino 330 was the absolute epitome of imagesetters. Loved that machine. Not a finer machine of that type in existence; a total workhorse.
The 3030 was a beast and weighed more than a tank. Good times.
Wow, I did not that you were that old, I mean experienced.
Me and dirt are good friends. Grew up together.
So I take it you helped Moses put the ten commandments on the stone tablets.
Yeah, if Moses was around when Adam was. :laugh:
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 03:38:12 PMQuote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 03:33:16 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:27:05 PMQuote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 03:16:24 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 02:51:58 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 02:40:38 PMA little before my time....
I will say, the Lino 330 was the absolute epitome of imagesetters. Loved that machine. Not a finer machine of that type in existence; a total workhorse.
The 3030 was a beast and weighed more than a tank. Good times.
Wow, I did not that you were that old, I mean experienced.
Me and dirt are good friends. Grew up together.
So I take it you helped Moses put the ten commandments on the stone tablets.
Yeah, if Moses was around when Adam was. :laugh:
Was that before or after the dinosaurs? He might have a first hand account of how they died.
Quote from: DigiCorn on October 26, 2011, 03:44:53 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 03:38:12 PMQuote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 03:33:16 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:27:05 PMQuote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 03:16:24 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 02:51:58 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 02:40:38 PMA little before my time....
I will say, the Lino 330 was the absolute epitome of imagesetters. Loved that machine. Not a finer machine of that type in existence; a total workhorse.
The 3030 was a beast and weighed more than a tank. Good times.
Wow, I did not that you were that old, I mean experienced.
Me and dirt are good friends. Grew up together.
So I take it you helped Moses put the ten commandments on the stone tablets.
Yeah, if Moses was around when Adam was. :laugh:
Was that before or after the dinosaurs? He might have a first hand account of how they died.
Adam was Cro-Magnon. Eve was a spider-monkey.
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on October 26, 2011, 03:31:25 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:25:53 PMRegistration was fine on them as long as you didn't use its own register marks. We used to manually make marks on our Hell Chromacom system and place them on the page. Then the registration was perfect.
Yeah, tell an 86 year-old stripper to NOT use the marks on the film... hahahahah! I didn't care, we were a Service Bureau. The film rarely registered on a capstan imagesetter. Always a hair off... always. Film stretch being pulled though a processor wet, or running long galleys of film. I never had a problem, but I didn't have to strip anything off it. By the time I got into stripping, I was using film off a drum imagesetter by then, Scitex PS2.
No, we put the marks on the page and then output film and the marks on the film (for the 86 year old strippers) were the ones made by us...not the imagesetter software. The work always fit but the built in registration marks never did.
And I'm talking about the old 402 imagesetter, not the 3030 which was a drum imagesetter.
We had 6 Lino's that we sledgehammered into pieces, then hauled out through the shop with a snatch-strap hooked up to a truck and sold for scrap. I kept some nameplates and a couple of pieces of small hardware. We dumped the brass into barrels. Pied all our type into barrels too. The owner kept the Ben Franklin press and we junked the proofing presses. I think he kept a few Mats.
Put in a Lino 330 and a 530.
Quote from: hotmetal on October 26, 2011, 02:53:42 PMI'll never forget when the typeshop I was at bought an early postscript imagesetter, around 1989 (not a Lino, however) and the young smartass salesman threw a floppy at me and said: "Lino this, quick!"
Glad that "verb" didn't stick around too long!
Compugraphic?
Quote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:06:04 PM...strippers.
I miss telling people "I'm a stripper". :old:
I used to have to strip in the registration squares at my First Job® in printing (pin-fed forms), and sometimes the job number. Job numbers were 6pt type output to film (on our Linotronic 3600(?)) to fit in that short bit of space to the left of the holes. Those were the days I would find bits of litho tape in the drain after washing my hair. :laugh:
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on October 26, 2011, 06:35:11 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:06:04 PM...strippers.
I miss telling people "I'm a stripper". :old:
At the first shop I worked in we found an old VHS tape titled something like "Advanced Stripping Techniques" and joked about what customers would say if we left it on the front counter.
I was a stripper until around 2005. Then I turned 30 and found myself out of a job. :laugh:
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on October 26, 2011, 06:32:51 PMQuote from: hotmetal on October 26, 2011, 02:53:42 PMI'll never forget when the typeshop I was at bought an early postscript imagesetter, around 1989 (not a Lino, however) and the young smartass salesman threw a floppy at me and said: "Lino this, quick!"
Glad that "verb" didn't stick around too long!
Compugraphic?
Close - it was a Varityper.
Meanwhile, I recently acquired my very own letterpress, a Craftsman Monarch (not made by Sears, by the way.) A friend was getting forclosed on and had to empty his garage fast and I ended up with his letterpress, 3 Gestetner silkscreen duplicators (a type of mimeograph) and a Ditto (the machine that made the purple copies that people sniffed in grade school and now call mimeos, which is incorrect, they're dittos, a completely different printing process.)
The letterpress did not come with any type and is missing the rollers. He thinks it was last used as a diecutter. I'll probably try and sell it and split what I get with my friend.
German Linotype film...uber cool!
Vorführung einer Linotype Setzmaschine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx4uDc6qNak#)
Was ist das? :scheiße:
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on October 26, 2011, 06:35:11 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:06:04 PM...strippers.
I miss telling people "I'm a stripper". :old:
Yea, I miss those days. It was nice making a little extra money from all those ten dollar bills being stuck down my pants. :grin:
Quote from: gnubler on October 26, 2011, 07:33:06 PMWas ist das? :scheiße:
Das ist not crap! Look at that machine!
Quote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 07:36:42 PMQuote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on October 26, 2011, 06:35:11 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:06:04 PM...strippers.
I miss telling people "I'm a stripper". :old:
Yea, I miss those days. It was nice making a little extra money from all those ten dollar bills being stuck down my pants. :grin:
You did THAT?! ERRR, let that happen to ya? :laugh:
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on October 26, 2011, 07:38:18 PMQuote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 07:36:42 PMQuote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on October 26, 2011, 06:35:11 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:06:04 PM...strippers.
I miss telling people "I'm a stripper". :old:
Yea, I miss those days. It was nice making a little extra money from all those ten dollar bills being stuck down my pants. :grin:
You did THAT?! ERRR, let that happen to ya? :laugh:
Well I couldn't say no when people just automatically stuck money in my pants every time I said I was a stripper.
Of course, when they saw what was under the pants, they paid me to put my pants back on.
:laugh: :laugh:
Notice how Joe has not posted here. Prolly too bashful. Who knows what lurks under that rich, silky tiger skin suit of his.
:toaster:
Quote from: Syphon on October 26, 2011, 07:36:42 PMQuote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on October 26, 2011, 06:35:11 PMQuote from: Joe on October 26, 2011, 03:06:04 PM...strippers.
I miss telling people "I'm a stripper". :old:
Yea, I miss those days. It was nice making a little extra money from all those ten dollar bills being stuck down my pants. :grin:
Technically, you still "strip" files. I tell people I "strip" all the time. No one ever questions it. I guess since the
Full Monty, they figure anyone can do it. There are a lot of undiscriminating old maids without the internet looking for goodie bags all the time.
No one questions it because we still accept "camera ready artwork". :laugh:
This said by Bossman at least once a week...and we haven't had a camera for years.
Great vid, Sabrina. betcha this guys wearing lederhösen.
The angry German in the corner?
Are you on crack? Do they even have that in Oz?
Quote from: gnubler on October 27, 2011, 10:27:02 PMThe angry German in the corner?
Are you on crack? Do they even have that in Oz?
Yes, we are slavish followers of such trends.
Quote from: Stiv on October 26, 2011, 09:27:20 AMhttp://vimeo.com/15032988 (http://vimeo.com/15032988)
Linotype: The Film is a documentary about Ottmar Mergenthaler's amazing Linotype typesetting machine and the people who own and love these machines today.
:old:
My boss likes to talk about how he learned to set type on one of those machines, I believe at the Mergenthaler School in Baltimore. I had showed him an early trailer for this click a while back, I'll have to let him know when it gets released even though he'll be retired soon.
Quote from: hotmetal on October 26, 2011, 07:18:09 PMQuote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on October 26, 2011, 06:32:51 PMQuote from: hotmetal on October 26, 2011, 02:53:42 PMI'll never forget when the typeshop I was at bought an early postscript imagesetter, around 1989 (not a Lino, however) and the young smartass salesman threw a floppy at me and said: "Lino this, quick!"
Glad that "verb" didn't stick around too long!
Compugraphic?
Close - it was a Varityper.
Meanwhile, I recently acquired my very own letterpress, a Craftsman Monarch (not made by Sears, by the way.) A friend was getting forclosed on and had to empty his garage fast and I ended up with his letterpress, 3 Gestetner silkscreen duplicators (a type of mimeograph) and a Ditto (the machine that made the purple copies that people sniffed in grade school and now call mimeos, which is incorrect, they're dittos, a completely different printing process.)
The letterpress did not come with any type and is missing the rollers. He thinks it was last used as a diecutter. I'll probably try and sell it and split what I get with my friend.
remembered from my radical students days, early 70s. messy effing things. The pin registers formed a cursive 'Gestetner', correct? I remember they had a big shiny HQ in upmarket Rushcutters Bay here. used to ride there on the Cossack650 in my surplus store leather jacket, shoulder length hair, for supplies. Shoulda seen the looks I got when entering the reception foyer. :laugh: