I find this really weird:
Got a Roku stick for Christmas and the only use I've had for it so far is Netflix. (The Tivo Premiere streams Netflix too, but getting into it is god-awful slow & the controls on the Tivo remote are equally abysmal.) I hate the way Roku pushes out video, at least on the few shows we've watched. It's too sharp, if that makes sense. It has an odd almost daytime soap opera look, and I've set the default down to 720p on the Roku to see if it makes a difference but it doesn't.
I'm going into a Sony Bravia KDL-46VL using HDMI for the Tivo. Is the Roku doing some kind of upsampling or am iI just loopy?
Netflix looks fine on my Roku box but I don't have the stick so I'm not sure if it would make that difference or not.
I have been seeing this a lot. I don't know that it is necessarily a sharpness thing, but an attempt at a quasi 3D. First time I noticed this was on the Hobbit movies... both in theater and my blu-ray copy. Seems most things I watch on Dish have this ultra-realistic feel. Kinda cheap looking but you get used to it.
The hobbit is running a higher frame rate than normal. That's why it looks funky.
This (http://gizmodo.com/why-frame-rate-matters-1675153198) explains it a little better.
As far as the roku looking sharper since I'm on can and string internet I'm happy to get 720p. I've never had an instance where I say "this is too sharp".
Maybe there is a setting in the TV that you can adjust to make it more to your liking.
Right, I did read something about the filming of The Hobbit.
I do know what Slappy is saying and it is hard to get used to. They have something that makes other movies look like The Hobbit. Might be the TV. For instance, I have an older flat-screen... it does have HD but is over 6 years old. I have my PS3 hooked up HD, and watched Guardians of the Galaxy Blu Ray. Watched the same BluRay at our vacation home, over Christmas, and it looked similar to The Hobbit, like Slappy describes. Even older movies, like Step Brothers, had this soap opera feel to them on the new TV.
Good to know it's not just me! I'll have to watch some other stuff, all we've used the Roku for is Orange is the New Black so hopefully it's not all of the content they stream.
I bet it is a combination of their content and your TV. I say that because I noticed it on a new TV buy not an older one, same blu-ray disk.
I thought about it being partially due to the TV model, it's an older Sony LCD that's 1080p, going to try it on another one that's newer but a Vizio to see if it's any different.
Let me know. I'm somewhat vexed by this.
My thought was maybe it's a 120 vs a 60 screen. Since the 60 can ghost making it look less crisp if it's a 120 it may be more noticeable.
Funny, we're talking about it being too crisp and the manufacturers are trying to sell us 4k displays.
You can go to the Netflix site, and slow the connection speed, if that's really the issue.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306
Quote from: Farabomb on January 21, 2015, 12:17:09 PMMy thought was maybe it's a 120 vs a 60 screen. Since the 60 can ghost making it look less crisp if it's a 120 it may be more noticeable.
Funny, we're talking about it being too crisp and the manufacturers are trying to sell us 4k displays.
I'd agree - seems like it's the frame rate of the content or TV frequency refresh rate, but most likely the TV refresh rate. I hate how a lot of modern TVs are offering to digitally smooth out motion - great for sports, but horrid for films...
Being based in Wellington, New Zealand (and also work in video production industry), I have several mates who worked on LOTR and Hobbit films. Their heads just about exploded when Peter Jackson told them they'd be shooting in 4k, 3D AND 48 frames per second... Apparently it was a bit of a nightmare - the storage required for the job was massive.
I could imagine the files being massive. They did a great job on the LOTR movies but the higher framerate in The Hobbit made it look funky.
Or the fact they tried to capture lightning in a bottle again and failed. The cast and director was miserable the whole time shooting and it showed in the work.
I was watching netflix on the fire stick this weekend and I was getting skips and jumps constantly. I may have to check my settings. It was probably trying to play in 1080 and my DSL will choke on that.
It's the TV itself with all of it's sharpness and signal processing. It IS the Soap Opera effect, since those are shot at 60fps if I'm remembering correctly. Hate that.
All that processing is ok for tv shows, but if you try to hook up as a monitor your mouse with seem like it's freaked out on bath salts.
Turn all that processing stuff off in the TV settings and it'll start to look normal again.
Quote from: Scratch on March 02, 2015, 09:53:18 AMIt's the TV itself with all of it's sharpness and signal processing. It IS the Soap Opera effect, since those are shot at 60fps if I'm remembering correctly. Hate that.
Turn all that processing stuff off in the TV settings and it'll start to look normal again.
I thought I'd dug through all of the settings and didn't see a way to do anything with the processing, maybe it's what they call MotionFlow. I'll look some more, I've reverted to using the Tivo interface for now instead of the Roku stick.
Most Netflix users stream in 720p and not 1080i. But some seem to be able to stream in 4k. Any idea what kind of bandwidth your Roku is consuming?
Not even remotely. How would I gauge it? Not sure if it has a built-in bandwidth monitor or if I'd have to do it through the Fios router some how.
I'm happy if it plays without stuttering or dropping out mid show.
Quote from: Slappy on March 03, 2015, 12:14:02 PMNot even remotely. How would I gauge it? Not sure if it has a built-in bandwidth monitor or if I'd have to do it through the Fios router some how.
Check your Netflix account for "Playback Settings" and your Roku settings for "Display Settings". If Netflix is set to high and Roku is set for 1080 you will probably get 1080 if the video is available in 1080 and your internet connection can support it. I think I read somewhere that netflix will automatically adjust depending on your connection speed.
You also might want to reset your Netflix app on your device.
QuoteTo perform this reset, launch your device's Netflix app, then using your controller or remote control, press the following sequence: Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, Up, Up, Up, Up. This will bring up general account and hardware information, along with the option to deactivate the Netflix app from your device. Once you've deactivated the Netflix app, you can sign back in to your account and see if your problems have been resolved.
How to access hidden Netflix streaming settings (http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-access-hidden-netflix-streaming-settings/)
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, Up, Up, Up, Up.
that's the combination of my locker...
Quote from: david on March 03, 2015, 01:22:56 PMUp, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, Up, Up, Up, Up.
that's the combination of my locker...
I'm sure you mean money vault after so many years in the printing profession.
Yup, it's the stash of nickels from every time he heard "the last printer didn't have a problem" and "it looks fine on my screen".
Quote from: Farabomb on March 03, 2015, 01:45:45 PMYup, it's the stash of empty liquor bottles from every time he heard "the last printer didn't have a problem" and "it looks fine on my screen".
fixed
I asked the digital guy here what happened to his bottle of makers mark that was on his shelf.
"it's been a tough week" :drunk3:
just 1 bottle?
It's only Tuesday. :rolleyes: