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Title: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: Slappy on October 01, 2013, 01:21:53 PM
We've got one client who is going to be doing a LOT of work in the coming months & I'll need to place various combinations of Union bugs, recycled logos, Indicias, etc. I've already done this with InDesign & it's fantastic, in Quark - not so much.

I've made a Library with all of the logos, but it looks like this:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/430620/Quark_Library.png)

I can barely see the difference between some of the logos, and there's no way to display a name, description or anything, or even make the thumbnails larger. Anybody know of an XTension to do this better, or just any way really that's not total crap??

fwiw, here's how InDesign's panel looks:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/430620/InDesign_Library.png)
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: Joe on October 01, 2013, 01:24:26 PM
You poor, poor, bastid! :laugh:

j/k...

Quark 9? Never moved past 8 and haven't used Quark libraries since Quark 4.

So to sum up...I'm no help at all. :undecided:
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: t-pat on October 01, 2013, 01:29:08 PM
why does that look like you are running system 7??
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: David on October 01, 2013, 01:30:16 PM
that's how the NEW quark looks...

Exciting new trends in timeless age old designs
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: DigiCorn on October 01, 2013, 01:30:36 PM
Maybe make a second version in .png that will sit side-by-side (presumably) because it has the same file name, different file extension?
[edit]or make the .eps images into high res .tif or 2400dpi bitmaps?
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: David on October 01, 2013, 01:54:38 PM
was checking on that and found that others have the same comment...  small thumbnails, crappy view, and no tags to identify the objects.


why do I find that funny?
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: Slappy on October 01, 2013, 02:30:36 PM
Ah fuck it, I'll just try to remember what's what when we're slamming 8-10 jobs an hour through that all have to be on press ASAP!!!!  :hangme:
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: Joe on October 01, 2013, 02:35:45 PM
Just pick one. If it is wrong they can just reprint it later when they have more time. :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: Joe on October 01, 2013, 02:41:46 PM
This is from Quark 8 so not sure if it will help with Q9:

QuoteLabeling library entries
Once you label one library entry, you can use that label for other entries. Alternatively, you can give each of your library entries a unique name. To label library entries:
Double-click a library entry to display the Library Entry dialog box.
Enter a descriptive name in the Label field or choose one from the Label list. To rename a library entry, enter in a new label or choose a different label from the list.
Click OK.

Displaying library entries by label
To display entries by label, click the drop-down menu (Mac OS) or Labels menu (Windows) in the upper left corner of a Library palette. Choose labels to display associated entries.

The menu lists All, Unlabeled, and any labels you created and applied to entries.
You can choose more than one label to display multiple categories of entries; a checkmark displays next to each selected label.
If you choose more than one label on Mac OS, Mixed Labels is displayed in the drop-down menu. When you select the Labels menu on Windows, a checkmark displays next to labels displayed in the palette.
To view all library entries, regardless of label, choose All.
To view entries to which no label has been applied, choose Unlabeled. You can choose Unlabeled in addition to other labels.
To hide entries to which a label is applied, choose the label again.
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: David on October 01, 2013, 02:45:36 PM
that still works for Quark 9, I just found out.

 :woohoo:


 :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: gnubler on October 01, 2013, 04:05:44 PM
Fuck quark.
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: Slappy on October 01, 2013, 04:07:44 PM
Except what they term "Labels" are really more like tags, a method for filtering out what's shown. It does nothing to make it easier to see wtf is in that little thumbnail. Half-baked bullshit like I would expect from nobody else but Quark.

Quote from: gnubler on October 01, 2013, 04:05:44 PMFuck quark.
:goodpost:
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: gnubler on October 01, 2013, 04:11:27 PM
Seriously, it's garbage. I've spent more hours converting from q to Indy because it works out better in the long run. Your average quark user probably doesn't use the Library or even know what it's for, so why would quark care?

I use Libraries in Indy on a daily basis...if it sucked like that I would just shoot myself.  :shoots_self:
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: Slappy on October 01, 2013, 10:58:11 PM
The merits of one over the other aren't up for debate here - this client uses Quark and these jobs turn on a fucking dime. Seriously, something that arrives at 6:30pm needs to be on press for first shift next day, and with revisions quite often. Converting & futzing around are't even options, I'm just trying to shave off a few steps where I can.

They do work like a champ in InDy, I almost wish I hadn't found them & know great they CAN be. Damn you QUUUUUUAAARK!!!!
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: DCurry on October 02, 2013, 04:23:15 AM
Might be worth just placing them all in a separate document at a size where you can see them, then copy and paste as needed. Not ideal, but at least you can see what's what.
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: Chilbear on October 02, 2013, 05:18:59 AM
Why not make only "one" logo that has all the bugs in it at the same size, then you can move around on the logo sheet to get the right one to view with the hand/content tool.
Title: Re: Image Libraries in Q9
Post by: Slappy on October 02, 2013, 08:37:41 AM
Some are TIFs, so they can be filled white if need be, some are EPS like the Recycle logo that has both a black & white version so I guess I could convert them & make one master logo - just blech. Dan's suggestion may be the best way for now, at least I can see wtf I'm copy-pasting.

Oh, and how the hell do I make Full Res Previews the default, instead of having to set it for every single damned image?? Even when the same image appears multiple times in a doc, you have to select them ALL & set the resolution to Full.