20 years of Photoshop

[jezza]

Volume of work is how we got ROI. The damn things were so expensive very few people had them. Ours was a Linotype-Hell RIP 50 connected to a 630 I think... huge hardwear RIP and I know of at least two that's still running a film setter.

Overnight plotting was fricking nightmare. Heaven help the proof readers if they'd missed somehing and we'd have to start stripping stuff in...

Middle picture just bought it all back

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[DigitalCrapShoveler]

Remember Image and Color Studio G? How 'bout Photoshop 1? Those were the days, eh? Back when apps came on 2 or 3 floppies instead of 15 dual-layer DVDs.

YOU are the first prepress person I have ever heard mention Color Studio. You were just made member #1 in Joe's prepress Hall of Fame. Every time I mention Color Studio from the old Mac LC from around 1988 - 1992 everyone gives me the "deer in the headlights" look.

Man, I used to freehand draw in that glorified color version of ImageStudio!  It is what got me into computers to begin with. I was enamored with it. I also liked PixelPaint. Remember that one! I love the old nostalgic apps, it reminds me of how far we've come, and far we got to go. Hahahahahah!

I used to build 4 color ads for Auto Trader on a Se-30. Those were good times. It's amazing I even have vision, let alone patience. By today's standards, we lived in the dark ages.

I miss you. :kiss: :kiss:

And Captain, I would reply, but I have no idea what you said. I kid. :laugh:

[frailer]

And Captain, I would reply, but I have no idea what you said. I kid. :laugh:

Insert emoticon with lower lip pout.

[beck]

You got me thinking about our first purchases, when setting up our company's Mac Department.  I dug out the quote from October, 1995.

Agfa Horizon Scanner - $16,054.00 (it could handle about a 11" x 17" original)
Mac 9500 Workstation, 80 mb RAM, 2 gb Hard Drive, Tape Backup, 200 mb Syquest drive, 20" monitor, - $14, 844.00
Software - Quark, Illustrator, Photoshop, Freehand, Retrospect, Norton, Suitcase - $2,416.00
   I'm pretty sure it was Quark 3, Illustrator 5, Photoshop 3 (and who cares about Freehand  :evil:)
Accel-a-Writer laser printer w/ (2) paper trays - $7,395.00
3M Rainbow proofer - $17,223.00
Agfa 200 Typeface Subscription - $2,703.00
Agfa Avantra 25 imagesetter w/ inline processor - $68,520.00
Mac 8500 RIP station, 72 mb RAM, 1gb Hard Drive, 17" monitor - $8,189.00

Submitted for your review.

beck

[tapdn]

$137,354.00 and it's all junk now.  :rolleyes:

[beck]

I remember throwing the scanner and the Rainbow proofer into the dumpster vividly.  Schools didn't even want them for free.

[tapdn]

Can relate, Beck. We were able to sell our old drum scanner which only imaged to film, didn't even have a digital out connector, to some idiot other company. We still have our 20x24 Screen stat camera if anybody's in the market.  :laugh:

[jimking]

We just sold our 40" 6 unit miller press for $10,000, it is on its way to Brazil . We bought it 8 years ago for $400,000.  :laugh:

[beck]

When we updated from the Avantra to a Dolev imagesetter, I think we only got about $5 to 10K for it.  And it was in mint condition, only about 2 years old.

[Skryber]

I hope we learned our lesson buying used equipment.

At Jerry's shop they bought a used die cutter. I can't remember what they paid for it but they put double that amount into it to get it running and it still doesn't run. Whoever sent it wrote on the machine "good luck" in the dust with their finger. That should've been a clue. So now they bought a brand new one, spent less and it's the best out there.

[Captain_Type]

It was personally painful to me to throw away all that work film, representing years worth of man-hours of stripping, camera work, scanning, typesetting, etc., and containing many, many pounds of silver. However, it would all need to have been pulled off of ruby/amberlith/mylar, or that yellow/orange paper with the grid printed on it whose name escapes me. This would have led to carpal tunnel syndrome, and not really that much monetary compensation to show for it, as the film was relatively low in silver content.

Makes you yearn for the good old days...sending the "new monk" in the next stall out for some 10 point rubric ink...or tricking him into illustrating the assassination of Thomas Becket on entirely the wrong folio.  :grin:

[beck]

It was personally painful to me to throw away all that work film, representing years worth of man-hours of stripping, camera work, scanning, typesetting, etc., and containing many, many pounds of silver. However, it would all need to have been pulled off of ruby/amberlith/mylar, or that yellow/orange paper with the grid printed on it whose name escapes me. This would have led to carpal tunnel syndrome, and not really that much monetary compensation to show for it, as the film was relatively low in silver content.

Makes you yearn for the good old days...sending the "new monk" in the next stall out for some 10 point rubric ink...or tricking him into illustrating the assassination of Thomas Becket on entirely the wrong folio.  :grin:

Goldenrod?  I think that's what we called it in High School.

[tapdn]

yep... goldenrod or masking sheets we called 'em.

[youston]

yep... goldenrod or masking sheets we called 'em.

Tapd would be the one who knows, having been Gutenberg's* apprentice and all.

*Steve Gutenberg, of course.

[tapdn]

He was the apprentice Grasshopper and you could learn some things from the Master too!  :wink: