Batch Convert to CMYK?

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Here is the same page (it's a fairly nude book, so these were one of only a few clothed pages to post) in two versions:

RGB Export:
http://www.kineticvineyard.com/media/Book-Sample-RGB.pdf

http://www.kineticvineyard.com/media/Book-Sample-CMYK.pdf

What will guarantee that the pages PRINT as black as they appear in the RGB file?  I'm pretty certain Amazon isn't going to accept a file in RGB, and if they convert it, I'm afraid they'll gray out the background.

Clever Endeavor

Looking at it side by side with the links above, it looks like the CMYK version is screened.  Or something strange is happening.

Any and all help is, of course, greatly appreciated.

gnubler

Quote from: Clever Endeavor on July 27, 2011, 03:00:08 PMit's a fairly nude book

That got me to download it.

The CMYK is just 100%K. You'll need to make it a built black in the native file, I suppose. What's it layed out in, InDesign?
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Yup, rich black is what you want. Just make sure that for any black text you leave it as K only, unless it is very large type.
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Quote from: Clever Endeavor on July 27, 2011, 03:00:08 PMHere is the same page (it's a fairly nude book, so these were one of only a few clothed pages to post) in two versions:

RGB Export:
http://www.kineticvineyard.com/media/Book-Sample-RGB.pdf

http://www.kineticvineyard.com/media/Book-Sample-CMYK.pdf

What will guarantee that the pages PRINT as black as they appear in the RGB file?  I'm pretty certain Amazon isn't going to accept a file in RGB, and if they convert it, I'm afraid they'll gray out the background.

Black only will not look as dark as 4 color black. What kind of press is this going to be printed on? Most printers like to keep the total ink around 300%. For newsprint we want it around 240%. You need to find out what your printer wants the total ink to be. If they say 300% I would go with C80 M60 M60 K100. Keep the cyan about 20% over the MY.
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Quote from: Clever Endeavor on July 27, 2011, 03:00:08 PMHere is the same page (it's a fairly nude book, so these were one of only a few clothed pages to post) in two versions:
RGB Export:
http://www.kineticvineyard.com/media/Book-Sample-RGB.pdf

man, im in the wrong line of work.

Joe

Quote from: delooch on July 27, 2011, 04:16:24 PM
Quote from: Clever Endeavor on July 27, 2011, 03:00:08 PMHere is the same page (it's a fairly nude book, so these were one of only a few clothed pages to post) in two versions:
RGB Export:
http://www.kineticvineyard.com/media/Book-Sample-RGB.pdf

man, im in the wrong line of work.

We print a lot of stuff like that. Porn publishers almost always pay their print bills. Churches will stiff you more often than not.
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Quote from: delooch on July 27, 2011, 04:16:24 PM
Quote from: Clever Endeavor on July 27, 2011, 03:00:08 PMHere is the same page (it's a fairly nude book, so these were one of only a few clothed pages to post) in two versions:
RGB Export:
http://www.kineticvineyard.com/media/Book-Sample-RGB.pdf

man, im in the wrong line of work.
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Quote from: delooch on July 27, 2011, 04:16:24 PMman, im in the wrong line of work.

Fresno gov doesn't print nude spreads? Odd.


Quote from: Joe on July 27, 2011, 04:18:18 PMWe print a lot of stuff like that. Porn publishers almost always pay their print bills. Churches will stiff you more often than not.

Even though pron is more "stiff"....  :laugh:
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Quote from: gnubler on July 27, 2011, 04:22:58 PM
Quote from: delooch on July 27, 2011, 04:16:24 PMman, im in the wrong line of work.
Fresno gov doesn't print nude spreads? Odd.
blah! reports, forms, business cards.. over and over and over and over and over..  :death:

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Quote from: delooch on July 27, 2011, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: gnubler on July 27, 2011, 04:22:58 PM
Quote from: delooch on July 27, 2011, 04:16:24 PMman, im in the wrong line of work.
Fresno gov doesn't print nude spreads? Odd.
blah! reports, forms, business cards.. over and over and over and over and over..  :death:

I find that hard to believe.
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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mattbeals

If you convert using perceptual instead of relative colormetric you will get a rich black. But the photo's may not convert the way you want them. So having said that depending on where the color conversion happens you can dictate the conversion parameters to a greater or lesser degree.
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Clever Endeavor

I'm glad you all liked them.  The press it's running on will most likely be something akin to a Canon CLC7000 or Ricoh C901 or Igen something-or-other. 

So I should change the black background to a process black I create (80-60-60-100 CMYK)? I can do that. I can replace all the black background boxes with the new black color. Then I just convert to PDF using "Rich Black" under Preferences>Appearance of Black and in [High Quality Print] settings?

I've got to design the cover today and upload the entire bad-boy to Amazon tomorrow.  Home stretch, right?

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