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frailer

April 19, 2012, 08:51:00 PM
Anyone aware of an enhancement in recent PhShops where you can 'auto-stretch' to get bleed, in a situation where the image can't be moved or unmasked?
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April 19, 2012, 09:13:54 PM
Quote from: frailer on April 19, 2012, 08:51:00 PMAnyone aware of an enhancement in recent PhShops where you can 'auto-stretch' to get bleed, in a situation where the image can't be moved or unmasked?

It is not "auto" by any means but I open the image in Photoshop, expand the image using "Canvas Size" to add enough white space to all 4 sides of the image. Then draw a marquee along one edge down the side of the entire image a little bigger than the bleed you want to add. I copy that and then Paste. Then I go to "Edit - Transform - Flip Horizontal". Then use the move tool to nudge the pasted image to the very edge of the image where it it mirrors the original. Then flatten the image and repeat for the other side, then the top, then the bottom. It's easier than it sounds and I can do an image in about 2 minutes. You don't really have to concern yourself too much with the repeating pattern in places because 95% of it is going to end up on the floor of the bindery anyway.
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frailer

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April 19, 2012, 11:46:33 PM Last Edit: April 20, 2012, 04:50:33 AM by frailer
Ended up doing a copy/slice/ˆCanvas Size/clone out to match image at trim~sorta... Place in Indy, butt, tweak, reExport.  But I'll give that one a go next time... This one is a pretty fancy book, and a client we're willing to put out for, so...

While we're on PhSh... using 5.1, when I try and clone-stamp stuff it leaves a 'white hole'.   :huh:  v5.0  => no problem. Dump plist file?
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DCurry

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April 20, 2012, 06:19:31 AM
I do something similar to Joe, but slightly different. This works really well and is fast.

Double-click Background to make it a layer.

Expand canvas by desired bleed amount.

Use the marquee to select as large an area as I can on one side of the main subject (the larger, the better because the stretch in the next step will be less noticeable over a larger distance). I try not to select any of the main subject so it doesn't get stretched.

Command-J to copy the selection to its own layer. (You still want the image on the original layer, too, otherwise you'll see an artifact.)

Free Transform the newest layer and stretch it to the edge of the canvas.

Command-E to merge this layer down.

Repeat on other 3 sides if needed.
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April 20, 2012, 07:15:55 AM
Nice tute there Dan!

thanks!
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April 20, 2012, 08:13:19 AM
Cool! Have to try it sometime. I usually do exactly what Joe described.
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April 20, 2012, 08:51:35 AM
are you a Chinese hacker?
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gnubler

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April 20, 2012, 10:01:22 AM
Is that your new thing?  :laugh:

Just make it bleed, ffs.
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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G_Town

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April 20, 2012, 10:04:10 AM
Quote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 09:13:54 PM
Quote from: frailer on April 19, 2012, 08:51:00 PMAnyone aware of an enhancement in recent PhShops where you can 'auto-stretch' to get bleed, in a situation where the image can't be moved or unmasked?

It is not "auto" by any means but I open the image in Photoshop, expand the image using "Canvas Size" to add enough white space to all 4 sides of the image. Then draw a marquee along one edge down the side of the entire image a little bigger than the bleed you want to add. I copy that and then Paste. Then I go to "Edit - Transform - Flip Horizontal". Then use the move tool to nudge the pasted image to the very edge of the image where it it mirrors the original. Then flatten the image and repeat for the other side, then the top, then the bottom. It's easier than it sounds and I can do an image in about 2 minutes. You don't really have to concern yourself too much with the repeating pattern in places because 95% of it is going to end up on the floor of the bindery anyway.

That's an old trick of mine I've used for many years. :goodpost:

gnubler

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April 20, 2012, 10:05:52 AM
I prefer the trick of punching the deziner in the back of the neck, HARD, after they've submitted three "final" files to us and still don't understand the challenging concept of bleed.
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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pworden

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April 20, 2012, 11:24:13 AM
I use "content aware" fill most of the time for missing Pshop bleeds.
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April 20, 2012, 11:25:56 AM
Quote from: gnubler on April 20, 2012, 10:05:52 AMI prefer the trick of punching the deziner in the back of the neck, HARD, after they've submitted three "final" files to us and still don't understand the challenging concept of bleed.

 :goodpost:

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April 20, 2012, 11:42:05 AM
Quote from: gnubler on April 20, 2012, 10:05:52 AMI prefer the trick of punching the deziner in the back of the neck, HARD, after they've submitted three "final" files to us and still don't understand the challenging concept of bleed.

That like a Donkey punch?

gnubler

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April 20, 2012, 11:58:16 AM
"Punch the deziner in the donkey"

Or, the 6-pack Slam. Depends if they're a fat fcuker or not.
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Tracy

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April 20, 2012, 12:03:58 PM
sheesh never thought of the flopping -duh!
Gonna try Dan's tip too!
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