...but if it's from hell, why don't it dry?

Yu

Quote from: Farabomb on September 28, 2016, 09:46:15 AMThe facts will never stop a customer from asking the impossible. His last shop did it so your facts are wrong. Matters not how much info you can place into their hands proving your point, the last shop did it. How do you get reflex to look like reflex? Fill the fountain with it and run the job as 5c. Fuck the customer that wants you to do backflips and change the world so they can save by making the job 4c. Out the gate you already have a problem. God bless. you're fucked

That's one of the problems with shops doing the impossible just to get the work. The last shop does some witchcraft to placate them, your shop prices it lower not knowing the hell involved and you're left on the hook to make it happen. It doesn't matter how many hours it takes jerking around with the files, how many other customers get pissed because of the crippled throughput, as long as the "big client" (group of total assholes) is happy.

Then the client gets a price cheaper from some other sucker that's less than the money you're loosing on every job and they bounce to them. It's like a hot chick with herpes. You know it's going to be a shitshow; you know it's going to hurt and bring you to tears but you do it anyway. The only difference is you might be able to recover and put it behind you. Herpes never goes away or so I've heard.

Yup - I'd be running RB as a spot for sure.

Quote from: born2print on September 28, 2016, 11:37:15 AM...but if it's from hell, why don't it dry?

I'm in hell (Illinois). It is very humid!

Quote from: born2print on September 28, 2016, 11:37:15 AM...but if it's from hell, why don't it dry?

Because it's made from unicorn pee, the tears of children and virgin blood.

They should call it reflux blue 

Now they want to run the job 5 color with reflex blue. It is what they wanted in the first place but remember, we have 10 people involved now in this project so everything will get screwed up.

Who is on first?

Ok, is ANYONE here all that surprised?

I remember many, many times being warned of some clusterfuck job coming in. You know, like 8 spot colors, diecut, sewn perfect bound, gatefold cover, AQ with understrike varnish, stepped sheets with tabs and film lam. You spend a month preparing for it, running tests and making your life a living hell. Then this SS 4c job comes in with the customer's name on it. You inquire about the big book that's coming in and the CSR says oh, when we told the customer how much it was going to cost they changed the specs. Ummmm, did you think to tell anyone so we don't do all these tests and extra work for something that will never come in?

Quote from: Farabomb on September 28, 2016, 02:02:54 PMOk, is ANYONE here all that surprised?

I remember many, many times being warned of some clusterfuck job coming in. You know, like 8 spot colors, diecut, sewn perfect bound, gatefold cover, AQ with understrike varnish, stepped sheets with tabs and film lam. You spend a month preparing for it, running tests and making your life a living hell. Then this SS 4c job comes in with the customer's name on it. You inquire about the big book that's coming in and the CSR says oh, when we told the customer how much it was going to cost they changed the specs. Ummmm, did you think to tell anyone so we don't do all these tests and extra work for something that will never come in?

Crazy talk there.

Prepress:
First in last out

Quote from: born2print on September 28, 2016, 02:14:12 PMPrepress:
First in no way out

fixed

This is all for a lasagna pan label that will end up in walmart. If we dont ace that reflex blue.... can you just imagine how pissed off those shoppers will be?

Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on September 28, 2016, 03:22:43 PMThis is all for a lasagna pan label that will end up in walmart. If we dont ace that reflex blue.... can you just imagine how pissed off those shoppers will be?

...so you're an FDA compliant shop and checking all CPSIA requirements, of course.
    

Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on September 28, 2016, 03:22:43 PMThis is all for a lasagna pan label that will end up in walmart. If we dont ace that reflex blue.... can you just imagine how pissed off those shoppers will be?

I know I'll be checking those colors carefully as I shop with my Pantone book in hand!

Quote from: born2print on September 28, 2016, 03:37:59 PM

Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on September 28, 2016, 03:22:43 PMThis is all for a lasagna pan label that will end up in walmart. If we dont ace that reflex blue.... can you just imagine how pissed off those shoppers will be?

...so you're an FDA compliant shop and checking all CPSIA requirements, of course.
    

dont know about that, but we are fsc and pefc certified, so we are helping change the world you know..... maybe affecting global climate change and the like. I can sleep at night knowing our chidren face a brighter tomorrow.