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Title: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 05, 2007, 07:14:39 AM
We are going to redo all of our workflows to keep them consistent among our nexus servers and I want to have our screen page WF's set up so that it creates static links (rather than having to point to the pages every time you send a job to plate).

I remember at nexus training that there was a way to do this when you set up the WF but damn if I haven't forgot.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: Joe on December 05, 2007, 10:58:36 AM
It's in the PS/PDF Interpreter for both your raster and impo workflows. If you can wait until later this evening I can send you a couple of workflows that are setup this way and you can use as an example.
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 05, 2007, 11:12:16 AM
Quote from: Joe on December 05, 2007, 10:58:36 AMIt's in the PS/PDF Interpreter for both your raster and impo workflows. If you can wait until later this evening I can send you a couple of workflows that are setup this way and you can use as an example.

Sure not doing it until this Saturday.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: Joe on December 05, 2007, 11:18:52 AM
I will email you the WF's to the email address in your profile unless you would rather have it emailed somewhere else. If the latter, PM me the other email address.
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 05, 2007, 11:39:58 AM
Nope that address is fine, thanks again.
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: Joe on December 05, 2007, 04:46:57 PM
They are on their way. Good Luck. You'll definitely see a speed boost on your impo side.
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 06, 2007, 09:27:41 AM
Got 'em, Just got a truck load of work dumped on me, I'll check them out later.

Thanks again

Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 11, 2007, 08:21:43 AM
Whoops, I thought my WF was working but alas the Screen pages dont come over when printing my impo ???
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: Joe on December 11, 2007, 01:48:12 PM
You mean your screened one-bit tiffs? Where do they go? Error?
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 11, 2007, 02:05:32 PM
No error,  the impo goes thru but when I open the press form in dot spy all I have are the color bar marks etc that I put on the layout none of the screen pages show.

Long said it was my file dependency and that it I should have the "make eps link to tiff" dependent on the screen page copy, when I do that, however, I don't get a preview at all in powerlayout as well as no images on the form.

Is it really this tuff to make a screen page workflow with a static link to the lowres eps??

Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: Joe on December 11, 2007, 02:26:43 PM
No, it's not that hard. I use it all the time. Did you use the WF's I sent you. Nexus (Scott Lee) actually made them for me.
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 11, 2007, 02:35:48 PM
No I didn't as they were a bit more than I needed.

Here is what I have now. Not sure what the heck I am doing wrong and Long already closed the call so I suppose I'm going to have to get ugly (not much of a stretch).


p.s. on my old WF (without static links) there was a file dependency from the make eps link to tiff back to merge OPPO files and assemble screen tiff modules
.





Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 11, 2007, 02:40:50 PM
Just an FYI heres my old WF



Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 11, 2007, 04:06:38 PM
Ok heres where I'm at. The only sep I'm getting is the DIE, looking at the job in Nexus the DIE is the last color screened, I thought it was kinda goofy that there was a make link icon after every color.

I just gotta figure out where the hell the make eps link module should go and where its dependencies should lie.

Hey at least I'm making some kinda process :-[
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 11, 2007, 05:02:11 PM
Is it possible to spam your own thread?

Success! I had to put a order dependency from the "copy screen tiffs"  to "make eps link to tiffs" now I have static links and files that are working.

Joe I did try your raster trap (just got rid of the stuff I didn't need) and it did the same thing as my WF, kept writing eps link files for each color with the last color screened being the only sep u got ???


Screw it it works I guess.

Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: Joe on December 11, 2007, 07:32:20 PM
Here is my simplified WF's

1. Raster WF

2. Raster Interpreter settings

3. Impo WF

4. Impo Interpreter settings


Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 12, 2007, 08:37:21 AM
I'm guessing its because yours is a raster WF but when I set up my screen page WF with the link set up like that it creates a link for each tiff (color) that keeps getting overwritten by the next color to be assembled and when its complete I am left with the link file with only one color (the last to be processed).

By putting an order dependency from the Copy tiffs to the make link module I now get all colors in the link eps and everything processes correctly.

Dunno if I have this set up the "kosher" way but its working so I'm a happy camper.

Thanks for your help Joe.
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: Joe on December 12, 2007, 11:39:17 AM
I'm just wondering why you need links to your one-bit tiffs? Are you doing something with them other than outputting plates? Inquiring minds want to know! ;D
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 12, 2007, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: Joe on December 12, 2007, 11:39:17 AMI'm just wondering why you need links to your one-bit tiffs? Are you doing something with them other than outputting plates? Inquiring minds want to know! ;D

Ok, here goes if we are doing something retarted I didn't set it up!

I've been working with AP for years but am relatively new to Nexus. Ok enough disclaimers.

Once 1-up files have been approved we run them thru a screen page workflow and back them up that way (do a lot of reprints) we started doing this mainly because when I started here prepress were the red-headed step children of the company we were always making file changes on repeat jobs because "we didn't send it to plate correctly".

By doing SP we were able to eliminate that variable to some extent. (believe me the pressroom still tried to blame us).

Anyway once a press form comes our way we drop the link file into powerstepper and point to the screen pages (at least we used to hence this whole excercise).

Please tell me there isn't a whole lot easier way :-[
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: Joe on December 12, 2007, 12:50:45 PM
Oh, Artpro and Powerstepper are foreign to me. I have no idea if there is a better way or not. We're strictly Nexus raster, impose the low res link files, and then screen one-bit tiffs to CTP.
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 12, 2007, 12:58:44 PM
How are you imposing?
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: Joe on December 12, 2007, 01:14:03 PM
We place the low res EPS links of the raster single pages in Preps and print to our impo WF.
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: G_Town on December 12, 2007, 01:23:26 PM
Quote from: Joe on December 12, 2007, 01:14:03 PMWe place the low res EPS links of the raster single pages in Preps and print to our impo WF.

Ahh you are using preps, man theres about as many ways to do things as there are things that can go wrong.

When I first started to use AP many moons ago we got 2 seats with powerstepper and power trapper. At that time we were imposing files on a microassembler and prisma outputting full flats to a dolev800 then burning plates in a frame. Then we went AP/Xitron/dolev route then we got a brisque and a Lotem.

The addition of the Nexus has been kinda weird but I have always used powerstepper since my old shop and new one have internal CAD departments and all layouts are generated by them. You import the Cff2 file from CAD and apply either AP files, eps or PDFs to the layout. I used to drop the AP files directly into the layouts and push Fat PS to the brisque but here we are using the links which speeds things up on the mac quite a bit.

Ok I'm done rambling :P
Title: Re: Screen page workflow with static links
Post by: Joe on December 12, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
Yes, there is definitely many ways to skin these prepress cats. ;D