4 contiguous pages, backed by 4

[Farabomb]

I don't mind crop marks at all in my PDFs. Yes I have been bit once or twice but It's also saved me a bunch of times. You all know the deal, rush job with limited (wrong) specs. You follow the specs written, impose it and check it and notice the marks in the artwork don't line up to the preps crops. Go back to the file and notice it's 8.125x10.875 not the 8.5x11 the specs call for. My default settings have the crops just a RCH into the bleed so if it's off I can see it in the imposed file. Worst case if the marks are an issue pitstop takes care of it. I did have one designer that put every friggin mark possible in the work .0625 away from the live area. Luckily she's a good one and listens so that got resolved right quick.

[Syphon]

Our clients seem to either have problems creating useful pdfs or they have no idea what the hell they are.
You guys are so lucky to get them.

[Tracy]

Yeah, Ive been bitten with the pdfs with crops, etc. and the art not being centered.
I mostly use the files I output and put into impo.
Im kinda freakish about things being mathmatically centered :laugh:

Me too. To the point of being obsessively freakish...if that is possible. :laugh:

:laugh:
prolly a lot less stressful not being freakish, but thats prepress!

[typeman]

By the way, this is a good way to split pages apart if you are dealing with a perfect-bound book and you need grindoff - when used with facing pages, the left and right pages will remain left and right but let you pull them apart so you can open up bleeds into the grindoff area.

If you do this be careful if the job has any crossovers. It can become a problem.

[frailer]

Crossovers and perfect bound are an unhappy mix, at the best of times. Occasionally, I've put my head on the block and pushed crossover pages out by a mm or 2, knowing that image will be lost regardless. Having some extra image at the spine would only help there, I'd imagine.

[DCurry]

If you do this be careful if the job has any crossovers. It can become a problem.

Well, if there is a crossover that spread will not have to split apart since the bleed in the grindoff area will pick up more of the crossover image. The only way it's a problem is if some items crossover but others stop at the spine.