It's official - Adobe's finally going all Cloud

Started by Possum, May 06, 2013, 11:54:40 AM

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Slappy

Nope. We're so damned slow that I've started re-learning converting print layouts to ePub formats, iPad mostly. Print is dead, dontcha know.
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Quote from: Possum on May 15, 2013, 08:20:20 AMSounds good to me. Or at least go to a nice, normal job with nice, normal problems.

not sure if it's like this for everyone, but the level of stress and insane demands has tripled in the last 3 weeks around here.

Sounds normal. For printing, anyway.  :drunk3:

we're all working towards a mutiny I think.
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Quote from: Slappy on May 15, 2013, 10:22:41 AMNope. We're so damned slow that I've started re-learning converting print layouts to ePub formats, iPad mostly. Print is dead, dontcha know.
damn! We're busier than flies on a manure pile. (this is my only post of the day where I haven't cursed).
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Captain_Type

It sounds like eventually, backsaving a file for someone who is not cloud based will become impossible. Surely eventually a file will have so many features removed that opening a modern file in something 10 years old will render it less than useful.

On a more positive note, I suppose everyone would be using the same font set, which would cut down on font problems...unless a designer wants to use a non-Adobe font for some reason.

Is that even possible?  :homer:
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Grimace

I don't know why I didn't think about before, or if it was mentioned already in this thread...

But how many users will just stay with CS6 and never upgrade?

Captain_Type

And then ask you for back-saved files you made edits to on the cloud.
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Grimace

Quote from: Captain_Type on May 17, 2013, 10:04:42 AMAnd then ask you for back-saved files you made edits to on the cloud.

Well, yeah, I guess. I mean, what if no one ever migrates to the cloud. Hell, many folks are still using CS3-4.
Cloud = no adopters, except that photographer doof in the video.

t-pat

Quote from: Grimace on May 17, 2013, 09:45:17 AMI don't know why I didn't think about before, or if it was mentioned already in this thread...

But how many users will just stay with CS6 and never upgrade?

users that have customers that never upgrade either.
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Slappy

I ventured over to the PP Forums and of course there's a pretty heavy discussion going on over this too, many of the same issues. Except, there's an Adobe Guy posting & replying and making some interesting points. Go read it if ya want, it's in the Adobe sub-section. Probably clear up some of the misconceptions but it's not all rosy.
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Joe

Quote from: Grimace on May 17, 2013, 09:45:17 AMI don't know why I didn't think about before, or if it was mentioned already in this thread...

But how many users will just stay with CS6 and never upgrade?

My guess is many of them will hold off as long as possible. Being a printer though you usually have to go along with whatever your customers do unless you can force them to send PDF's. But it won't be long before those people start receiving files from their customers created with CC, .psd, .ai, and .pdf files, that will start causing problems when used with the older CS6 apps. So even they they may think they are "never" going to upgrade they will eventually. Adobe has everyone by the short hairs on this one.
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I just read all 5 pages...
I'm on the fence about this and his explanations are only confusing more and more people

Leonard is giving them hell...

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Quote from: Captain_Type on May 17, 2013, 09:02:06 AMIt sounds like eventually, backsaving a file for someone who is not cloud based will become impossible. Surely eventually a file will have so many features removed that opening a modern file in something 10 years old will render it less than useful.

On a more positive note, I suppose everyone would be using the same font set, which would cut down on font problems...unless a designer wants to use a non-Adobe font for some reason.

Is that even possible?  :homer:

Are you kidding? Almost every day I see a font a customer got from some website. When i ask where they got it, they can't tell me. "Just Google it." Yeah, and then either find the font for a charge or another one with the same name that doesn't look a thing like yours. Then the RIP chokes on it anyway.
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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