Anyone know if there is any harm in running an AzuraTS plate thru the processor (really, just a gummer) twice? Sometimes, when my gum is getting old and/or I haven't run a plate in a day or so, I get some gum gunk (spots, streaks) on the plate. It washes off on press with no problem, but I like to give the pressroom clean plates if possible. So, I just run it thru the gummer again.
I would never do this if this wasn't a "chem-free" plate, but I figure all it is doing is adding more gum and brushing away the gunk.
If there is a scrubber roller I'd be slightly concerned but if it truly is just a gum unit it should be fine. If you have one check the plate before and after with a plate densitometer and see if it changes the dot.
I've done it many times with the original Azura plates, and haven't seen anything bad creep up.
There is a scrubber, but the way the plate works is that the laser fuses the coating to the aluminum in the image area, and the scrubber removes everything that is unfused (non-image area). Haven't seen any problems yet.
Seratne - welcome aboard!
Have done it many times for the exact same thing (clean plates) for the last five years....no issues.....your not developing your just re-gumming.
Not one single problem. Nope. I do it too.
If they haven't already, Agfa should be coming out to replace a part on your C series processor. I guess one somewhere overheated, and now they're paranoid. Never had any issues with mine. Ever!
Quote from: digital@sig-1.com on September 01, 2010, 02:51:41 PMNot one single problem. Nope. I do it too.
If they haven't already, Agfa should be coming out to replace a part on your C series processor. I guess one somewhere overheated, and now they're paranoid. Never had any issues with mine. Ever!
Ever??
in almost 2 years, not one issue.
I'll back that up....5 years.......no issues.
while in litho prepress and while i used the azura and TS i took the lazy way and didnt run through the processor again - it washes off easily on press as you said and well - do the press boys want me to run the komori's as well :ninja2:
Quote from: G_Town on September 01, 2010, 03:01:01 PMQuote from: digital@sig-1.com on September 01, 2010, 02:51:41 PMNot one single problem. Nope. I do it too.
If they haven't already, Agfa should be coming out to replace a part on your C series processor. I guess one somewhere overheated, and now they're paranoid. Never had any issues with mine. Ever!
Ever??
Sounds like never ever! Wish everything was like that.
Ever is a hell of a long time.
Just had our first TS issue... An exact reprint job from November 2009 came out lighter on press this go around. I had our guy go through our Screen Plate Rite and it all checked out within spec. I cleaned the processor to a pristine state, and changed chemistry to a new lot. Brought the plate back to a linear state and measure all values in 5% increments. It reads perfect.
Turned out we have three possible issues... when the Agfa guys came out to test the new American made plates, they might have changed laser intensity, which affects the baking of the plate. Still, the plate reads perfect when brought to a linear state, so it really can't be that.
We also changed press wash and ink manufacturers. It has to be an issue on press, so the TS still rocks!
Quote from: Farabomb on February 09, 2011, 10:13:03 AMEver is a hell of a long time.
I guess not that long. He just had a problem. :laugh:
Quote from: gnubler on February 10, 2011, 09:52:37 AMQuote from: Farabomb on February 09, 2011, 10:13:03 AMEver is a hell of a long time.
I guess not that long. He just had a problem. :laugh:
It turned out to be a non-problem... Press issue.
Ya, just blame it on the pressman.
Quote from: digital@sig-1.com on February 10, 2011, 09:15:00 AMJust had our first TS issue... An exact reprint job from November 2009 came out lighter on press this go around. I had our guy go through our Screen Plate Rite and it all checked out within spec. I cleaned the processor to a pristine state, and changed chemistry to a new lot. Brought the plate back to a linear state and measure all values in 5% increments. It reads perfect.
Turned out we have three possible issues... when the Agfa guys came out to test the new American made plates, they might have changed laser intensity, which affects the baking of the plate. Still, the plate reads perfect when brought to a linear state, so it really can't be that.
We also changed press wash and ink manufacturers. It has to be an issue on press, so the TS still rocks!
Really? A press issue? That is hard to believe. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
I detect a note of sarcasm, there Joe. hmmm
Quote from: david on February 10, 2011, 11:33:54 AMI detect a note of sarcasm, there Joe. hmmm
So do I, but it was very subtle. Masterfully done, Joe.
Me? Never!
Fooled me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me...You can't get fooled again. :laugh:
Around here, I only blame it on the pressman when I know I'm right, and can prove it. :-)
Bush "Fool Me Once..." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A#)
Quote from: Lumpy on May 24, 2010, 01:39:59 PMSo, I'm siiting at home right now and I flip on CNN.
A press conference is going on with a Coast Guard dude and a bunch of empty suits!
WTF! They got a split screen going on the screen with these f@#ks standing around talkin' and a live shot of the pipe sh#@ting oil out! If this were going on during Bush time what do ya think would happen?
I'm just sayin'.
Quote from: tapdn on May 24, 2010, 03:03:26 PMHe would be sitting in a room full of 5 year old reading a book upside down?
My favorite post here. Ever. :cheesy:
taking a step back into the wayback machine there Gnub?
:kiss:
What, nine months ago?
Nine months can be life changing.
Indeed. Enough to turn your life upside down. Forever.
or right side up, depending
No, I meant what I said. The "up" side is turned "down". Forever. :huh:
We just got the plate shipment for the ctp coming in this week.... AGFA Azura TS... sounds like good plates no?
they are excellent plates psdfdxppsdscrtdfpdpf mate
many posts on their goodability and rliablenessness
Ah God bless em. (the powers that be here).
I spent yesterday afternoon after work filling in at my old shop for my old coworker who was out on vacation. They still run the old violet Agfa plates with the purple crap emulsion. When I was running plates, compared to the .12 mil Azura TS we run, their .04 mil were like tinfoil. I couldn't picture how the SM52 doesn't just rip them to shreds like our Komori would.