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#1
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on March 06, 2024, 05:46:05 PMI thought i had posted this, but obviously not, but can't you type in the ip address of the epson in a browser and pickup a detailed analysis of jobs? That's if your Epson is hooked up by ip.
I didn't think about it. I will try to do it and get back to you. Sorry for the delay in responding, I assume time zones are to blame. I'm from Poland :)
#2
Quote from: DigiCorn on March 06, 2024, 03:43:46 PMI want to say when it was EFIColor, you could see tank percentage, but I don't remember how. Not sure if that feature migrated to FieryXF.

I'll check if it's still available and let you know
#3
Quote from: born2print on March 06, 2024, 11:19:13 AMIf that data just isn't available, could you fudge it more generally... like per "page" or per sheet?
Like when workflows are measured... of course we all know not all pages are created equal but it's still a useful metric.

I'm more interested in getting information about the ink consumption for each print, as this will be more accurate than specifying costs per page size
#4
Quote from: DigiCorn on March 05, 2024, 03:28:24 PMAre you looking for the actual ink consumption used by the Epson, or are you taking about saturation/ink density in the artwork? Most modern RIPs allow you to drag an eyedropper over the RIP'd image to check for ink density, but if you are talking about Epson ink consumption, that's a different animal. In my experience, any build of color around 280%-300% and up ink density on a color build is a no-no.
I'm looking for the actual ink consumption used by the Epson. Is there any information of how much of each ink in the Epson printer was used to print the work that I uploaded to RIP Fiery XF? I need to prepare Excel file that will estimate printing costs.


#5
Hello ^-^
Does anyone of you know if it is possible to obtain information in Fiery XF 7 about how much of each ink was used when printing a given job on the Epson SureColor SC-P5000 printer? I'm trying to find any information about this on google, but to no avail. I have found calculators to check color coverage, but I can pull this information using Enfocus Pitstop or directly from ArtPro. This won't tell me much anyway, because at work we have colors that are reproduced by the printer, so such color coverage will not be of much use. I will be very grateful for any help from you.


#6
Hello.
Can I ask you for help in correct profiling the Epson SureColor SC-P5000 Violet Spectro 240v printer using
Fiery XF version 7? We bought a Fiery XF, but apparently the gentleman who sold us the software was unable to help
us profile the printer in HT mode (Half Tone, attached Screen1 section 1 option "Printer Type"). Would anyone of you
be able to help me profile the above-mentioned printer in this mode, by the way, explaining the individual options
marked on the attached screenshots? I would like to understand what this option is for and what it affects. I have too
little knowledge to carry out this process in HT (HalfTone) mode instead of CT (Contone). The question is whether
having such a printer makes sense to profile it in HT mode? We would like to be able to reflect the largest possible
gamut of CMYK and Pantone spot colors. To measure all printed charts, we use SpectroProofer that is built in this Epson
printer. We would like to achieve near-perfect colour matching of up to 99% of Pantone Solid Coated Colours as it says
on Epson website with this printer.
In our company we print in offset using the "IsoCoated v2 300" standard.
I'd be grateful for any help on this subject.















#7
Abc,
You're right, I said it was generated from ArtPro. I forgot that this file is actually generated by Distiller. My mistake that I forgot this pdf generating step. :facepalm:
I will check if I can export it to pdf file with specific settings.
#8
Those white lines don't show up on printing, only on monitor screen. Like I said, we tried to convince our Clients and printers on our production line, but it is too difficult for them to change the appropriate settings in Acrobat. As I mentioned before, it's like talking to the wall. My 4yr old daughter seems to be smarter then Them ;) It is terrible how stubborn and stupid some people are and from year to year it is getting worse.
#9
Abc and DCurry, I've send You a mail with link to download this pdf file. It is the same file which I've send to Joe. I get rid of everything and I only left background which cause problems. Please do not distribute this file anywhere. Sorry it took some time to answer, I see that we are 6 hours apart.
#10
Quote from: DCurry on January 06, 2021, 09:18:06 AM
I'm suggesting that you do indeed rasterize the entire page. Rasterizing part of the page or only specific objects is the worst thing you could do, IMHO. If you use the same rasterization engine that your rip uses you'll actually have a more accurate proof since the rip has to rasterize the art when it makes plates.

I kinda doubt the action you're referring to will work because these are not actually white lines, but adjoining shapes and your screen is just drawing the shapes, and where they meet it just appears to look like a line.

Have you actually printed one out to know if this is even a real problem? I know it's a problem for your customer, but sometimes customers need to be educated and if you can show them a real printed sample it might help alleviate their concerns.
I already used this feature to remove white lines without rasterizing the entire page, and it worked. However, here I am not able to force this function to work, because I did not manage to set it in such a way that these specific objects are selected. On the positive side, they are on a separate layer in the pdf file so maybe this will work out somehow. However, regarding your question about printing. Yes, we printed these files and there was no visible problem, but our client and the people who print it on our machines are uneducable that these lines do not pose any threat. In this way, one of these printers canceled the printing on the night shift and the finished product was delayed in arriving at the customer.
#11
Quote from: DCurry on January 06, 2021, 08:58:34 AM
metlife, don't get your hopes up - those lines are just where 2 objects meet and your screen stops drawing one and starts drawing the next one.

If you need it to disappear for your customer's proof, consider providing them a rasterized proof rather than vector.
DCurry
I still have hope for that it works. In Pitstop there is function "Remove white lines" but I don't know how to select only those objects to rasterize them and not loose any information about its color and not to rasterize whole content in this pdf but only specific objects.
#12
Quote from: abc on January 05, 2021, 03:09:08 PM
The suspense is killing me.   :lmao:
Quote from: Joe on January 05, 2021, 04:46:05 PM
You may want to send the link to ABC a few posts above as he will surely be able to tell more than I can (he works for Enfocus and is the Supreme Pitstop Guru  :D ).
ABC, is it possible for You to look at this pdf file if I send it to You and tell us more about those lines? Will it be possible to get rid of them in Pitstop somehow?
Joe, I don't know which application they use to preview this file but I think it is simple Acrobat Reader.
#13
Quote from: Joe on January 05, 2021, 04:17:54 PM
Ummmm metlife....I never received a link at my email for this PDF. You didn't actually use the email address spelled exactly as "joe at b4print dot com" did you? All spaces need removed and "at" changed to @ and "dot" changed to .
Joe yes indeed. I might look stupid but only look ;) I've send it to joe@b4print.com. I've also just send You a link to Your mail.
#14
Quote from: Joe on January 05, 2021, 12:06:56 PM
Quote from: metlife on January 05, 2021, 11:10:05 AM
Quote from: Joe on January 04, 2021, 02:00:07 PM
Same here about being wrong. My wife will testify to that! :rotf:
I have seen atomic regions that aren't rectangular. But yes with a sample PDF it will be a mystery.

Joe, I appologize that it took so much time. I've got a pdf file that I can send it to You. Please, just tell me how can I send this pdf as a private message to You?

Easiest way would be to upload it to https://wetransfer.com/ and send it to my email address which is joe at b4print dot com
Joe, I've just send You this pdf file. Please keep this file confidential and not distribute it anywhere. Otherwise, I might get into trouble at my job.
#15
Quote from: Joe on January 04, 2021, 02:00:07 PM
Same here about being wrong. My wife will testify to that! :rotf:
I have seen atomic regions that aren't rectangular. But yes with a sample PDF it will be a mystery.

Joe, I appologize that it took so much time. I've got a pdf file that I can send it to You. Please, just tell me how can I send this pdf as a private message to You?