Third party software for PDF editing

[almaink]

"All of the new workflow's are NORM, including Prinergy."
Well Rampage still has both ROOM and NORM and although I'm all PDF based I still run NORM seeing no advantage with a ROOM workflow for what we do here. Most simple text and color edits are done on the existing PDF using Pit Stop, extensive edits are done in native application if we have or can get the files.

[Vee]

I stand corrected.... I should have said-
ROOM is "old school" and, Most of the new workflows are NORM.

Are there any other mainstream workflows that utilize a ROOM flow out of the box?

[PlateSmith]

I was wondering Born2, and whom ever else uses Prinergy, which PDF manipulation tools from Prinergy you have.  Specifically which ones come in handy that Pitstop doesn't.
The only PDF tool from Prinergy we use is the PDF Trapper plug-in for acrobat.  We use Prinergy v3.1.0.6 and use Pitstop for most of our PDF manipulation stuff.

[born2print]

For the most part - the days of editing Post RIP Data are over. All of the new workflows are NORM, including Prinergy.

We are PDF only too. Every job we print is derived from a PDF.. some how, some way.
Pitstop is the only PDF editing tool we use. PDF Trapping is done via Prinect Trap Editor, and we run Supercolor as well for Color Space editing. Text edits - are ALWAYS done in the native app. No questions about it.

The question from me is....
What do you want to do to the PDFs that Pitstop/Kreodak tools can't do?

Vee

EDIT: Other than Color space edits.. but surely Kreodak has something for this.....

Exactly Vee, the boss misses the ROOM scenario... misses when we used to make a quick edit to ripped data and get to plating right away then fix and save native.
So your question is exactly what I'm trying to confirm now:
We already have powerful tools (Pitstop + Kodak) and I'm not positive we need anything else... that's where I'm at now, research / evaluation stage

[born2print]

I was wondering Born2, and whom ever else uses Prinergy, which PDF manipulation tools from Prinergy you have.  Specifically which ones come in handy that Pitstop doesn't.
The only PDF tool from Prinergy we use is the PDF Trapper plug-in for acrobat.  We use Prinergy v3.1.0.6 and use Pitstop for most of our PDF manipulation stuff.

We use the geometry edit and the trap editors and PDF compare from Kodak, the rest would be Pitstop tools that anyone has.

[Vee]

Ahha..
Well with that said-
Sounds like you have the tools you need. You just need the "Captain" to accept the new way of working..

[born2print]

YEH, HE'LL THINK WHAT I TELL HIM TO THINK!

[ninjaPB_43]

YEH, HE'LL THINK WHAT I TELL HIM TO THINK!

it IS actually possible, when done correctly.     

The trick is to make him think it was HIS IDEA to "use what you have, and alter the way you work"...