Cover spine artwork

[TommyGun]

I don't find a way to get this simple task done: I need a layout for the cover of a perfect-bound book and I need to use a custom artwork with the books title on the spine.
Normally I just setup a 2-page with 'rear cover' and 'front cover' and use enough bleed margin to fill up the spine's width when the artwork allows it.



So how do I setup my job in this case? Is there a special setting or do I need to make a 3-page and then resize the middle to the spine width? Make a 2-page for covers + 1 page for spine?
This need to be printed as work-and-turn btw, so I'd need front and back for this.  :angry:

Thanks!

[born2print]

I don't find a way to get this simple task done: I need a layout for the cover of a perfect-bound book and I need to use a custom artwork with the books title on the spine.
Normally I just setup a 2-page with 'rear cover' and 'front cover' and use enough bleed margin to fill up the spine's width when the artwork allows it.



So how do I setup my job in this case? Is there a special setting or do I need to make a 3-page and then resize the middle to the spine width? Make a 2-page for covers + 1 page for spine?
This need to be printed as work-and-turn btw, so I'd need front and back for this.  :angry:

Thanks!

I would just setup a 2-page, I would not rip 6 singles at 2 sizes and piece together in Preps.
HTH

[Skryber]

I don't find a way to get this simple task done: I need a layout for the cover of a perfect-bound book and I need to use a custom artwork with the books title on the spine.
Normally I just setup a 2-page with 'rear cover' and 'front cover' and use enough bleed margin to fill up the spine's width when the artwork allows it.



So how do I setup my job in this case? Is there a special setting or do I need to make a 3-page and then resize the middle to the spine width? Make a 2-page for covers + 1 page for spine?
This need to be printed as work-and-turn btw, so I'd need front and back for this.  :angry:

Thanks!

I would just setup a 2-page, I would not rip 6 singles at 2 sizes and piece together in Preps.
HTH

Agreed. 2 pages and use guides for your spine.

[Joe]

The easy way is by born2prints method.

I have done it before where I set the size of the bleed of the left side of the front cover to the spine width and set the back cover right hand side bleed to 0.

[DigiCorn]

I don't find a way to get this simple task done: I need a layout for the cover of a perfect-bound book and I need to use a custom artwork with the books title on the spine.
Normally I just setup a 2-page with 'rear cover' and 'front cover' and use enough bleed margin to fill up the spine's width when the artwork allows it.



So how do I setup my job in this case? Is there a special setting or do I need to make a 3-page and then resize the middle to the spine width? Make a 2-page for covers + 1 page for spine?
This need to be printed as work-and-turn btw, so I'd need front and back for this.  :angry:

Thanks!

Whenever I do this, I do it all as a big spread in Indy, and then impose as such. Page 1 is the front, page 2 is the back. But a dezinger once told me, "type never goes to hell," so I make the spine read 180 degrees of the way you have it.

[born2print]

I never cared which way the type went, unless specified.
Just for giggles I just looked at 5 different books from all different sources, and all 5 of them have the spine type going to hell (like Tommygun's diagram)
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 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: One of the 5 books is a Pocket Pal®
 

[DigiCorn]

I never cared which way the type went, unless specified.
Just for giggles I just looked at 5 different books from all different sources, and all 5 of them have the spine type going to hell (like Tommygun's diagram)
  :laugh:

most stuff does.

engineers always say (when i was a CAD), "turn it to the right."

[born2print]

Ya know the difference between ignorance and indifference?
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I don't know and I don't care!

[frailer]

In my experience, each BBound book cover is a one-off. Often I'll have to make it up from a designer's 2 pages. In which case case it's just 'pre-impose' them in InDes, making the spine the width that thems upstairs tell me it should be. Creators rarely know the required spine width in advance in my part of the world.. Have had to add/subtract 1mm more times than I can count, on 'pre-packaged' one.. Which I'll sometimes do in PitStop.
As long as the prepress you're sending it to have all the info. and files required, they'll knock into shape without whingeing too much, I reckon. Talk to them if you can.

[Skryber]

75% of jobs where I had to fix spines they have changed the stock. Got to the point the proof went out how the custy set it up and I would put huge notes stapled to job ticket and bag saying not to plate and spine not set. I wouldn't mess with it until I got the "ok to print."

[gnubler]

I would put huge notes stapled to job ticket

What for?  :laugh:  They seem to get "lost" and nobody has ever seen them.

[DCurry]

All we print are books, and 99.99% of the ones I've done over the past year that I've worked here have the type on the spine "going to hell."

As for setting up the artwork, another method is to use an independent page in Preps to sit in the gutter between Cover1 and Cover4 - just make sure you turn off left and right bleeds on the independent page, turn off left bleed for C1 and right bleed for C4.

[Farabomb]

I have to do these all the time for financial work. I use a single page with the spine calculated into it. They always change the damn size anyway so I just find it easier to do that way.

[TommyGun]

Ok Thanks for the hints.

p.s: my type always goes to heaven 

[Skryber]

My type goes to hell also. That way when it's laying flat, cover up, the type is the correct way. :evil: