According to InDesign's system requirements for CC 2015, it works with 10.9, 10.10 or 10.11. 

They've got the system requirements broken down for each app, so now you have to check each one.

I saw an article this morning that the 21.5 inch 4k retina iMacs have soldered RAM now. They're all going that way eventually, I fear. You don't need that 4k high-priced stuff anyway, do ya'?

Yep...

Quote*Note: Memory is not user-removable on iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2012), iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013), and iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2014) computers. Memory replacement for these computers must be done by an Apple Retail Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201191

Thanks for all your help I understand a little better.
sorry if I'm annoying, but I work by myself :laugh:

Tracy, you are the least annoying person around here. No offense to the rest of you.

Quote from: Joe on November 04, 2015, 02:24:59 PMTracy, you are the least annoying person around here. No offense to the rest of you.

None Taken.  (I tend to take that sort of thing as a compliment).

I just upgraded my 2008 iMac to El Capitan and it was a real bitch.  No Worky for 3 days.  This is my home machine so all I lost was some MMO time and some hair.  Luckily I don't work from home any more.  

Eventually figured out I had only (!) 25Gb space on the internal HD which probably caused most of the shit.  And I shouldn't have used an old version of Onyx to repair things - apparently El Capitan don't need it's permissions repairing any more anyway.

And my mouse and then my external HD started to play up.  So a new £5 mouse and a 1Tb SSD external and another 2 days moving things around and backing up.  

Damn thing still runs slower and on startup I only got 500Mb free RAM instead of 2.5Gb.  Hey ho - run Memory Cleaner 3-4 times and it's all good.  

I saw that I can get 6Gb RAM in the thing instead of the supposed max of 4Gb (got that when i bought it).  There is also a range of Tb internal SSDs which supposedly make a LOT of different but I don't want to risk fitting any of that myself.  

And I can remember when 25Gb was considered quite a lot.    

Onyx is still a good thing to have IMHO, but it needs to be the right version. There's one for each iteration of OSX. They might not have the newest one up yet, haven't checked.

Quote from: StudioMonkey on November 05, 2015, 08:30:41 AM

Quote from: Joe on November 04, 2015, 02:24:59 PMTracy, you are the least annoying person around here. No offense to the rest of you.

None Taken.  (I tend to take that sort of thing as a compliment).

I just upgraded my 2008 iMac to El Capitan and it was a real bitch.  No Worky for 3 days.  This is my home machine so all I lost was some MMO time and some hair.  Luckily I don't work from home any more. 

Eventually figured out I had only (!) 25Gb space on the internal HD which probably caused most of the shit.  And I shouldn't have used an old version of Onyx to repair things - apparently El Capitan don't need it's permissions repairing any more anyway.

And my mouse and then my external HD started to play up.  So a new £5 mouse and a 1Tb SSD external and another 2 days moving things around and backing up. 

Damn thing still runs slower and on startup I only got 500Mb free RAM instead of 2.5Gb.  Hey ho - run Memory Cleaner 3-4 times and it's all good. 

I saw that I can get 6Gb RAM in the thing instead of the supposed max of 4Gb (got that when i bought it).  There is also a range of Tb internal SSDs which supposedly make a LOT of different but I don't want to risk fitting any of that myself. 

And I can remember when 25Gb was considered quite a lot. 

This story is why I almost never update an existing OS from the previous version to a new one. I prefer to back up the whole shebang, format and install the new OS fresh and then start bringing back the necessary pieces from the backup. Yeah it takes more time but the end result is worth it. For both Macs and PC's.

Your fort is only as strong as it's foundation.

It also cleans out all the crap and clutter.

Quote from: Possum on November 05, 2015, 09:22:23 AMOnyx is still a good thing to have IMHO, but it needs to be the right version. There's one for each iteration of OSX. They might not have the newest one up yet, haven't checked.

Yes the version of Onyx is available for El Capitan.

QuoteThis story is why I almost never update an existing OS from the previous version to a new one. I prefer to back up the whole shebang, format and install the new OS fresh and then start bringing back the necessary pieces from the backup. Yeah it takes more time but the end result is worth it. For both Macs and PC's.

Seems like a lot of extra work but hey - would have been quicker for me to do it that way.  Good advice Joe.

Of course looking for a new computer my current iMac has bee acting up,
had kind of a freak out yesterday, and today I found an article with my same symptoms
and found the AMD Radeon 6970 Video Card is bad.
Apple is going to replace and install for free, this option would of ran out for me in January.
I need to buy a lottery ticket

get me one too...

pleaseandthankyou!

I was at the Mac store picking out my new computer and they
are trying to upsell me to the Fusion Drive
the computer I picked out has the 1TB Serial ATA Drive@7200 rpm

They are saying the Serial drive will be slow
I'm sure that's what I have in my current computer

Help would be appreciated!

Well it (Serial ATA Drive@7200 rpm) will be slower than the fusion drive but it isn't going to be "slow". How much extra is the fusion drive?

In case you aren't sure what a Fusion drive is...it is a combination traditional hard drive and SSD drive where Apple moves your most used files to the SSD portion of the drive and it is very fast while the least used files stay on the tradition hard drive. However as this article points out Apple has reduced the amount of flash storage in the 1 TB model to 24 GB of SSD storage which is not much.

http://9to5mac.com/2015/10/13/retina-imac-fusion-drive-flash-lol-are-you-serious/

If that is the case with the one they are trying to sell to you I'd decline that option.

200$ more,
Thanks Joe, It gets confusing in the store. It's so loud