PS and spot colors

[Joe]

For the back...since there is only the spot color couldn't you just save as a PDF from Photoshop, input into EVO and only output the cyan and remap it at output to PMS 662?


You could do something similar with the front by outputting a PSD of only the spot layers and another of the CMYK images. Then overlay the spot PSD and remap it to PMS 662 in Indy over the CMYK in Indy and output a new PDF. Or something like that. I haven't tried it but I think it is doable.

Your like me and try to fix everything. It's like a little piece of me dies if I have to KIB.

[DCurry]

I kicked it back...

Then the terrorists have won.

[Farabomb]

Yea well DCurry is the savior on this one. I had a hole while a job was ripping and I took a look and it seemed perfect. Told the customer to hold on before getting raped for more money from the designer. Hopefully it will work.

[Farabomb]

It also pisses me off that the natives I got were set up as a spot color job but the art wasn't correct.

This is not the only job that was like that today and it went through the designer and 2 prepress areas. Am I the only person that looks at files to make sure they are correct before sending them along?

[David]

yes, you are the only one...

and we thank you for your service.  :police:

[Farabomb]

I call BS. I doubt anyone on this board just shovels files through to another printer.

DCS would not allow any file to not be perfect internal or external.

[Ear]

Last week, I had a client that looked offended because I had not read the content of their publication.

"What did you think about my article on (inane horseshit that I feel should be the topic of everyone's day)?"

"uuummmm.... I haven't had the chance to read that, yet"

"Really? Don't you look through files before sending them to press?"

'Well, ya... I look at colors and stuff but I can't actually read very well."

[Joe]

I hate when customers ask my opinion about their design. Most of the time I can honestly say it would have looked better if you had a monkey fling poo at an artboard. But for some reason we have to be nice to designers and tell them how great it looks.

[Ear]

Yep, that too. But this one thought I actually sit here and read through all the shit I print.

[swampymarsh]

Yea well DCurry is the savior on this one. I had a hole while a job was ripping and I took a look and it seemed perfect. Told the customer to hold on before getting raped for more money from the designer. Hopefully it will work.

Hopefully YOU could rape them for more money, instead of the "designer". Somebody should pay, yeah I know, but other printers do this for free, they have never had this problem at another printer (that print shop that went broke as they were not charging for corrections on print ready files and were undercutting everybody else, which is why you are now blessed with this work).

[swampymarsh]

I hate when customers ask my opinion about their design. Most of the time I can honestly say it would have looked better if you had a monkey fling poo at an artboard. But for some reason we have to be nice to designers and tell them how great it looks.

[Farabomb]

I'm not looking to rape anyone on price. We will get paid for our work, may not be our full rate but all my time is chargeable. I get yelled at when I don't write down how long it takes. They always would rather me make it right than go back to the designer for some reason. I don't understand that, you paid good money for them to produce a proper product. Go back to them and tell them to make it right. I know, without that I wouldn't have a job as a digital alchemist but if I buy something I'd like it to work. Guess that's why I don't understand business.

I do have some good designers I work with that actually are concerned with doing things correctly. Most are useless monkeys with handi-wipes.

[Made in Taiwan]

How about this way: You create the spot color in PS first (using Joe's method), save it as a new file, then place the original file into InDesign. After you're done you place the new file with the spot color right on top of the original file and set it to overprint. But I don't know if it can work, I'll try later if I've time.

Edit: Cannot access your Dropbox (Error 404).

[swampymarsh]

Farabomb, glad to hear that your time/effort is not devalued and that you can charge for turd polishing. Not all can or do.

If the designer screwed it up the first time, they may not get it right the second time around and meanwhile your production schedule is probably not getting any longer, so it is better if you fix it as your company knows that it will work in the time left to produce the job.

People buy design from designers, they don't always know about or even get a workable file – but it looks great!

[Farabomb]

Well DCurry saved the day and it's going on next. 

I catch a lot of shit here and have a lot of pressure but I can't even get away with humility. I was talking to a customer yesterday and she called me an expert but I said no and the boss interjected saying, no I am. From him, that's an amazing compliment considering I'm normally the asshole. Might have something to do with the ton of work we have right now.

I actually made a designer loose her job. We have a customer that was farming out work to another designer. The customer knew there was a ton of work and didn't think the main designer could handle the workload. The files from the new designer were horrible. They were one of the "I'm the best" ones and won't listen to anything. I knew the issue and the solution before I even got the natives. The designer was sure it could not have been her as I'm the best.

Yup, you placed a 300 dpi image but at 250% making it low res. You're more of a moron because used a larger version of the same image on the cover (and both vector and .jpg images of the same damn logo, one 4c and one 1c K as it should be). A few talks with the customer later and I was told I won't ever have to worry about her files again. I felt a little bad but it's just less bullshit I have to deal with.