I being attacked for print errors related to exporting pdfs to impose from QuarkXpress 2021. First of all they won't trap on our rip. I told the client 10 years ago to stop using Quark but he would not. He gets a variety of pdfs from various suspicious sources that cause problems. Half of the ads I generally have to rasterize in photoshop.
So do any of the professionals on the forum want to back me up in case I need to go to court? Like they indict me like Donald? Please keep jokes to a minimum, my hair is falling out, turning gray and am starting to look like Bernie Sanders.
HELP!
One of the biggest dilemmas in prepress is the belief that any PDF is a perfect PDF. Most designers and Ad people think that the term High Res PDF or Print quality PDF is OK. AFAIK, there are still only 2 industry standard PDFs X1A and X4.
You can argue about any other variants but the professional print industry is slow to change. Adobe's attempt to change Illustrators native file format not withstanding.
A client who insists on using Quark should still be obligated to supply a prepress capable PDF, or accepts the way you make it work.
Yes, but making it work is becoming more and more difficult. We had pdf's supplied in his magazine for the CANADIAN GOVERNMENT FOR FRIKKS SAKE and it was made in Canva. Didn't have a problem with those magically.
Are you placing the supplied PDFs in Quark? If so, that's the issue.
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on March 31, 2023, 08:24:46 AMI being attacked for print errors related to exporting pdfs to impose from QuarkXpress 2021. First of all they won't trap on our rip.
Most of the problems I had with quark pdfs is fonts. It wants to make them invalid, and will fail to RIP.
You could try outlining the fonts, but that may add more crap to an already jacked pdf.
my .02
Quote from: DCurry on March 31, 2023, 09:00:50 AMAre you placing the supplied PDFs in Quark? If so, that's the issue.
No, we get the Quark "file" and he places the pdf ads in Quark. We have to output pdfs from Quark to impose to print.
Never could figure out why the exported pdfs from Quark don't trap properly. Mind boggling. Just another workaround issue to deal with.
I have no idea why you are having issues with Quark. It has been well over a year since I had any Quark issues. >:D
I could have predicted that comment would come!
It is like crack. I can't stop myself.
Well, now I'm curious - can you upload a PDF that won't trap for you? I want to see what Prinergy will do with it.
I can, but I am going out the door in a couple of minutes so I will do it next week.
I would try placing that quark pdf in indy and see what happens
I don't remember enough about quark to help tho
Frigg it. It's friday. His 3 issues are done for another 3 months. Maybe i will win the lottery and not have to deal with the next wave of misery . Cheers! :drunk3:
Quote from: Tracy on March 31, 2023, 12:25:16 PMI would try placing that quark pdf in indy and see what happens
I don't remember enough about quark to help tho
It blowed up! It blowed up real good!
I didn't know that Quark was still alive. I thought it died a quiet death years ago. I like Tracy's idea of placing the Quark-abomination pdf in Indy and see what happens. I would try a variety of options for that matter. Place it in Illy and re-export a pdf? You never know what might work.
have you tried re distilling the quark pdf.
works for a few issues we have from time to time that Apogee has issues with
Once upon a time, I would take the Quark file and export it to a .ps and manually distill it. That might still be a possibility - just distill it with all images and fonts embedded and NO compression whatsoever. IIRC, placing the Quark pdf in InDesign (with pdfs embedded/linked within the Quark pdf) causes unreported font errors; you'll have an ad that looks great in Quark and on screen, but exports from InDesign as Courier.
The way I see it, you've got two options. Take the entire final exported Quark pdf and rasterize the whole thing in Photoshop, or, take the embedded/linked pdfs within the Quark file and rasterize those in Photoshop and relink them inside Quark and then export a new Quark pdf with the new links. If spot colors or 100% K is involved, you may have extra work, as 100% K might become a rich black on rasterization and ink saturation might be over 270%, which in my day was a no-no.
If you're super lucky, you might be able to use Pitstop to correct any Quark pdf font embedding issues, and if you have the original links, you can remap them in Acrobat as well (right-click on the image in Acrobat, open in Illy/Photoshop, then close the Illy/Photoshop file - it will resave the image within the pdf)... but also IIRC, Prinergy likes Pitsop, but is not too font of Acrobat corrections.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 01, 2023, 01:07:10 AMOnce upon a time, I would take the Quark file and export it to a .ps and manually distill it. That might still be a possibility - just distill it with all images and fonts embedded and NO compression whatsoever. IIRC, placing the Quark pdf in InDesign (with pdfs embedded/linked within the Quark pdf) causes unreported font errors; you'll have an ad that looks great in Quark and on screen, but exports from InDesign as Courier.
The way I see it, you've got two options. Take the entire final exported Quark pdf and rasterize the whole thing in Photoshop, or, take the embedded/linked pdfs within the Quark file and rasterize those in Photoshop and relink them inside Quark and then export a new Quark pdf with the new links. If spot colors or 100% K is involved, you may have extra work, as 100% K might become a rich black on rasterization and ink saturation might be over 270%, which in my day was a no-no.
If you're super lucky, you might be able to use Pitstop to correct any Quark pdf font embedding issues, and if you have the original links, you can remap them in Acrobat as well (right-click on the image in Acrobat, open in Illy/Photoshop, then close the Illy/Photoshop file - it will resave the image within the pdf)... but also IIRC, Prinergy likes Pitsop, but is not too font of Acrobat corrections.
Sorta explains kinda the prepress gymnastics i have to do now.
Thanks for the ideas. I like Joes solution the best. RETIRE. But that won't be on the table for at least a few more years.
Next time you get the file, I"ll run it through PDFToolbox, it's got some good stuff to fix problem PDFs.
Man, I loved Quark 3.3 :) But now? OW!!!
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