Did anyone else catch on to this new trend in the paper industry? Now they're packaging 20# bond in 750s instead of 500s, 6 packs to a case instead of 10, so for each case instead of an easily divisible 5,000, you now have 4,500. But they charge the same price! That's the biggest scam since they started putting beer in 11 oz. bottles! Most paper trays are set up for 500, so now you have paper standing around getting dusty, damaged, etc., plus you have added labor costs dealing with overs; either repackaging for storage or the spoilage that wouldn't have normally occurred. Or if have a job that needs 10,000 sheets, now you have to order 3 cases instead of 2, for extra $$$, of course. Bunch of bullshit, man!
Simple solution: Print fewer copies for the same price. :D
They did something similar with toilet paper a few years ago. Made the rolls narrower, but still charge the same amount. Technically you are getting the same length but...
te-he... you said but
:banana:
and toilet paper!
Sugar and ice cream are my pet peeves. Used to be you could buy sugar in 5-lb bags, but a few years ago they all suddenly switched to 4-lb bags at the same price. That's a 20% price hike! I'm surprised the flour industry hasn't adopted this yet.
Ice cream did it a little more nefariously. Used to be 1/2 gallons. Then the premium brands went to 1.75 qt. Once everyone else followed suit and was 1.75 qt for a while, they all went to 1.5 qt, which is only 3/4 of a half gallon. They also started changing the packaging so no longer is the ice cream in a cardboard folding carton, now they are in tubs. This lets them raise the inside "floor" of the tub but still leaves a high lip around the bottom so the package looks taller than what the contents actually contain.
I would rather them leave the sizes alone and just raise the price so everyone knows what is happening.
Canned cat food has been doing this for over a decade. Also dry pet foods, dog and cat, canned people tuna, lard in a 4 lb. instead of a 5 lb. pail, and other things. Haven't seen the paper thing, though, and I hope I don't. Wonder if they'll start doing that with envelopes.
You got me started on cat food!
I have a cat who can be finicky and one who is not.
seems kind of weird that they are not liking the same flavors of cat food.
and they don't eat together so it's not like they are in cahoots on this :laugh:
I think they are doing something on the cheap now.
I've been tempted to taste the cat food to see what they are eating :laugh:
Quote from: Tracy on December 04, 2018, 12:07:49 PMYou got me started on cat food!
I have a cat who can be finicky and one who is not.
seems kind of weird that they are not liking the same flavors of cat food.
and they don't eat together so it's not like they are in cahoots on this :laugh:
I think they are doing something on the cheap now.
I've been tempted to taste the cat food to see what they are eating :laugh:
You never know. Check their social media accounts! ;D
No matter what I feed my cats, there is usually one that doesn't like what's on the menu, and it's not always the same one. However, they will occasionally get together and universally dislike a flavor. It's usually after I tried it, they loved it, then I bought a case the next week.
Even some raccoons don't like something the rest do. I've had a couple turn down chicken bones. The rest will fight over them.
I've never understood the concept of a finicky pet. It's an animal, and if it gets hungry enough it will eat whatever you put down for it.
Were talking cats not dogs :laugh:
Quote from: DCurry on December 04, 2018, 01:59:58 PMI've never understood the concept of a finicky pet. It's an animal, and if it gets hungry enough it will eat whatever you put down for it.
Obviously you have never met my dogs! :rotf:
Quote from: Possum on December 04, 2018, 10:50:15 AMCanned cat food has been doing this for over a decade. Also dry pet foods, dog and cat, canned people tuna, lard in a 4 lb. instead of a 5 lb. pail, and other things. Haven't seen the paper thing, though, and I hope I don't. Wonder if they'll start doing that with envelopes.
they tried this with dog biscuits here (dried dog food) reduce the packaging size and keep price the same... LOL one of the local big brands got utterly ripped on social media about it! so they reduced the price... briefly...
I guess being in print/packaging I kinda notice when people 'rebrand' in order to reduce packaging size... its such a con.
fuel is the big thing here at the moment: petrol was $2.48 litre NZ when i got back from the states in sept, an all time high, now it has slipped back to 2.06 (in a little over a month) as the govt has decided to investigate fuel company profits... Gee funny thing that
Quote from: DPSprint on December 05, 2018, 12:16:13 PMthey tried this with dog biscuits here (dried dog food) reduce the packaging size and keep price the same... LOL one of the local big brands got utterly ripped on social media about it! so they reduced the price... briefly...
I guess being in print/packaging I kinda notice when people 'rebrand' in order to reduce packaging size... its such a con.
fuel is the big thing here at the moment: petrol was $2.48 litre NZ when i got back from the states in sept, an all time high, now it has slipped back to 2.06 (in a little over a month) as the govt has decided to investigate fuel company profits... Gee funny thing that
Wow...if my math is right that converts to $9.38782122432 per gallon. I filled up yesterday for $1.86 per gallon. Even the $2.06 per litre comes out to $7.79794827504 per gallon. Please correct my math if that is off.
yeap you are right...
see why I liked filling up my bike in the states! ;-)
and the fuel is actually much better there as well, i got 300kms on a tank and that would be unheard of here, maybe 250kms max
I'd be happy to pay under $2/gal for fuel. It was $2.70 when I did my first fill up in NY.
Quote from: Farabomb on December 05, 2018, 01:05:48 PMI'd be happy to pay under $2/gal for fuel. It was $2.70 when I did my first fill up in NY.
I would be over the moon to pay only $2 gallon :banana:
unfortunately never gonna happen here... this is why we have smaller cars and smaller roads
$ 3.50 in san diego, gotta pay the sunshine tax
Hey wait a minute it's raining! Gas should be cheaper!
It just dipped to $1.95 here. Don't expect that to last.
Just filled up the other day in Michigan for $2.09/gal. And I had a $.10/gal coupon, so final price $1.99/gal. :banana:
Yesterday a few hours after I filled up for $1.86 it jumped back up to $2.16. After seeing the New Zealand price I suppose I shouldn't complain. ;D
Quote from: Joe on December 05, 2018, 03:57:30 PMYesterday a few hours after I filled up for $1.86 it jumped back up to $2.16. After seeing the New Zealand price I suppose I shouldn't complain. ;D
Nope dont! or we will send them prices to you guys
You know the scam that bugs me is at the grocery store where buying a larger quantity or volume actually costs MORE.
I see it all the time.
I guess enough consumers just assume that larger = smaller unit price so the retailers take advantage of that?
I always check the unit price. There are times where the "sale" really isn't the best deal.
Then I end up with a closet full of toilet paper.
Quote from: born2print on December 05, 2018, 04:16:55 PMYou know the scam that bugs me is at the grocery store where buying a larger quantity or volume actually costs MORE.
I see it all the time.
I guess enough consumers just assume that larger = smaller unit price so the retailers take advantage of that?
The best thing about smart phones....you always have a calculator on you!
Quote from: Joe on December 05, 2018, 12:23:19 PMQuote from: DPSprint on December 05, 2018, 12:16:13 PMthey tried this with dog biscuits here (dried dog food) reduce the packaging size and keep price the same... LOL one of the local big brands got utterly ripped on social media about it! so they reduced the price... briefly...
I guess being in print/packaging I kinda notice when people 'rebrand' in order to reduce packaging size... its such a con.
fuel is the big thing here at the moment: petrol was $2.48 litre NZ when i got back from the states in sept, an all time high, now it has slipped back to 2.06 (in a little over a month) as the govt has decided to investigate fuel company profits... Gee funny thing that
Wow...if my math is right that converts to $9.38782122432 per gallon. I filled up yesterday for $1.86 per gallon. Even the $2.06 per litre comes out to $7.79794827504 per gallon. Please correct my math if that is off.
Ok, its $7.79794827503 per gallon.
See there...I was using a US calculator instead of a Canadian calculator.
A quick calculation shows me that UK petrol works out at average $7.137 / gallon.
We started selling petrol in litres in the mid 1990s when the price per gallon got too scary.
:gom:
In the weird US we price it with the price being something like $2.50 9/10 and people always say it is $2.50 per gallon while in actuality it is closer to $2.51 per gallon. We're suckers for an imagined bargain like a $50,000 vehicle is actually priced at $49,999. What a deal!
Oh yeah, it's a thing:
When you see a price of $2.99, what your brain really sees is "two, a decimal, and some other numbers," and looks for a shortcut.
The first shortcut your brain takes is to look for a small, neat number, so you're going to gravitate toward either two or three.
fascinating source:
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-retailers-add-%E2%80%9899%E2%80%99-to-the-end-of-their-pricing-1-99-399-00-etc
We are told that the reason for this in shops at least is so that till workers have to open the till to give you your change, making the sale legal. Obvious bs.
In the last UK election one of the minor parties proposed the introduction of a 99p coin. :banana:
Ever look at a coupon in the Sunday paper (who even gets the paper anymore?)? The fine print says, "Value: 1/20¢." You can use these, and CAN pay with exact change.
Hand the checker 1 coupon and a personal check for 19/20¢