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Title: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on April 02, 2008, 08:14:16 AM
Sound like a theme for a nightmare...

I used to be able to embed arial Bold in pdf's with global font change but lately, the option to use arial Bold from the system fonts is not there. I installed the whole arial family in the fonts folder first. All the others show up except Arial Bold. I've removed them from the fonts folder and activated them through Suitcase but no luck. Restarted many times.... anyone else had this problem?
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: Joe on April 02, 2008, 09:08:48 AM
Aren't fonts fun in OS X? :evil: Have you tried restarting the Mac after adding the Arial fonts into the font folder? You shouldn't have to but I've seen it work before.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: ninjaPB_43 on April 02, 2008, 09:14:31 AM
Quote from: Joe  on April 02, 2008, 09:08:48 AMAren't fonts fun in OS X? :evil: Have you tried restarting the Mac after adding the Arial fonts into the font folder? You shouldn't have to but I've seen it work before.

ditto.. just worked for me with a pesky font that wouldnt activate in FEX like two weeks ago..     then when done working just take font back out of System Fonts Folder..


edit.. nevermind, der.. just read it wont load on your PC, not a Mac..   der  ignore the board fluffer, Im headed back to the bar where I belong.//.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on April 02, 2008, 09:31:37 AM
yeah, its a pc issue....
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: Joe on April 02, 2008, 09:33:17 AM
I'd still try a restart of the PC if you haven't yet.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on April 02, 2008, 09:47:06 AM
Yeah, I've restarted numberous, numerous times. Arial has given me about 300 gray hairs since I got into this racket. And counting.....

http://www.iliveonyourvisits.com/helvetica/


I even did a googe search on the meaning of the word "arial" and it seems microsoft created this word for this particular font, there's no other meaning for it.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on April 02, 2008, 09:52:40 AM
and for more crap on this subject


http://www.mimeartist.com/helvetica/
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: Joe on April 02, 2008, 09:55:52 AM
Can other applications see the Arial Bold font and use it. If not could it be a corrupted font file?
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on April 02, 2008, 10:03:54 AM
thanks Joe, no, other applications are not picking up the font as well, I've tried installing, uninstalling many copies of the font with the same results. But that's an idea, i'll keep trying. When you double click on the font and it gives you a preview in the window, it appears everything is ok. One thing I did notice, however was that this font is dated 1992. Thats an old font I'd say. 16 years ago in the business is a very long time. Maybe I'll check the dates on other Arial bold "specimens" we have here. And Install one if it's newer.




Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: Joe on April 02, 2008, 10:09:31 AM
Here is one from my XP machine dated 2004:

Arial Bold (https://www.b4print.com/Junk/arialbd.ttf.zip)
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: almaink on April 02, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
If you have InDesign on that Feecee dump the PDF in it and refry it with embedded fonts selected.
Sometimes Pit Stop has a Senior Moment when it comes to fonts that are active,
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on April 02, 2008, 11:07:14 AM
I'll try that but this particular client gives us 400-800 pages in a pdf with only some of the fonts embedded.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on April 02, 2008, 11:22:54 AM
Thanks for that font joe, but still no joy. Oh, and I made a mistake....other programs ARE seeing Arial Bold but I use the pc so infrequently i forgot to figure that out.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: Joe on April 02, 2008, 11:35:14 AM
In that case I'd try to outline all fonts in the PDF with global change.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: jimking on April 02, 2008, 11:42:51 AM
It may not see Arial bold in order to outline but it may. If you are using your font folder instead of a font utility program try downloading a free font utility program such as Linotype FontExplorer and try that. http://www.linotype.com/fontexplorerX

There is a PC version.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: Joe on April 02, 2008, 12:01:42 PM
Quote from: jimking on April 02, 2008, 11:42:51 AMIt may not see Arial bold in order to outline but it may. If you are using your font folder instead of a font utility program try downloading a free font utility program such as Linotype FontExplorer and try that. http://www.linotype.com/fontexplorerX

There is a PC version.

They removed the download link for the PC version quite some time back and still don't have the new version available yet. I wish they would hurry up.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: almaink on April 02, 2008, 12:44:35 PM
It may be looking for a different variant of Arial Bold. There are many different versions and unless you have the exact same version of the font used to make that PDF, it will never embed properly using Pit Stop. PITA Arial is...
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: frailer on April 02, 2008, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Joe  on April 02, 2008, 12:01:42 PM
Quote from: jimking on April 02, 2008, 11:42:51 AMIt may not see Arial bold in order to outline but it may. If you are using your font folder instead of a font utility program try downloading a free font utility program such as Linotype FontExplorer and try that. http://www.linotype.com/fontexplorerX

There is a PC version.

They removed the download link for the PC version quite some time back and still don't have the new version available yet. I wish they would hurry up.

Just subscribed to and activated their monthly email. Shoulda done ages ago. Am fortunate enough to not need it for PC, but handy to keep up with what they're up to anyway. Assume that the PC release would be flagged there. There's a link in the PC download page.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: Joe on April 02, 2008, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: frailer on April 02, 2008, 04:58:32 PMThere's a link in the PC download page.

Yeah, but if you follow it...it is a dead end.
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: Joe on April 02, 2008, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: pspdfppdfx on April 02, 2008, 08:14:16 AMSound like a theme for a nightmare...

I used to be able to embed arial Bold in pdf's with global font change but lately, the option to use arial Bold from the system fonts is not there. I installed the whole arial family in the fonts folder first. All the others show up except Arial Bold. I've removed them from the fonts folder and activated them through Suitcase but no luck. Restarted many times.... anyone else had this problem?

Man, you put the jinx on me today. Two PDF's using Arial and the font IS embedded in the PDF. One reflows but stays Arial and the other is converting to courier. ARIAL SUCKS!!!
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: frailer on April 02, 2008, 11:56:15 PM
Quote from: Joe  on April 02, 2008, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: frailer on April 02, 2008, 04:58:32 PMThere's a link in the PC download page.

Yeah, but if you follow it...it is a dead end.

Er...I meant the link to subscribe to their email news, not the PC download. Just clarifying.

Hey, a live Arial font virus! Never heard of one of them before. Do ya have to be the first kid on the block all the time, Joe?   :naughty:
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: Joe on April 03, 2008, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: frailer on April 02, 2008, 11:56:15 PM
Quote from: Joe  on April 02, 2008, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: frailer on April 02, 2008, 04:58:32 PMThere's a link in the PC download page.

Yeah, but if you follow it...it is a dead end.

Er...I meant the link to subscribe to their email news, not the PC download. Just clarifying.

Hey, a live Arial font virus! Never heard of one of them before. Do ya have to be the first kid on the block all the time, Joe?   :naughty:

Just my lucky day it seems. I've had a rash of PDF font problems lately. Problem is that some of them are not surfacing until the printed jobs are in the customers hands. Not my jobs mind you but they always come back to me with "What happened"?
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: frailer on April 03, 2008, 01:31:17 AM
Right...so your middle name's 'Buckstops'.     :rolleyes:
Title: Re: PC pitstop can't find Arial Bold
Post by: Joe on April 03, 2008, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: frailer on April 03, 2008, 01:31:17 AMRight...so your middle name's 'Buckstops'.     :rolleyes:

Evidently...