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Title: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 07, 2016, 08:27:18 AM
So I convinced the boss to get me a new laptop. I can no longer remotely login through chrome so I can't do things remotely. I pitched getting me a laptop so I can do work remotely then just go through the prinergy server that I can still connect to.

The only thing that might cause issue is the licence for preps. I need to be able to create and modify templates but I only have it in the Mac. I'm thinking of getting a windows laptop, if I install preps on that will I have the ability to modify and create templates? I can then just place them in the templates folder when I log into the prinergy box.

Or is this all a bad idea? I can't upgrade the mac because of preps. Do they have a power PC emulator that runs in newer versions of OSX?
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 07, 2016, 08:38:53 AM
I know you can run Preps on Windows 7 as I've done it. Not sure about Windows 8, 8.1, or 10.

If you are still using Preps 5.x with a dongle you'll just have to move the dongle between your Mac and the laptop.

As far as I know there is no Rosetta emulator for later versions of OS X. You can use a VM but the performance will suck.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 07, 2016, 08:43:16 AM
Oh yeah...the Preps 5.x interface really, really sucks on Windows.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 07, 2016, 08:43:59 AM
That's where it's a problem, I don't have a dongle, it's controlled by the server.

I do have a question. What does the dongle look like? Blue? says iKey 1000?

Sucks or not, I'm running out of options.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 07, 2016, 09:09:48 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on June 07, 2016, 08:43:59 AMThat's where it's a problem, I don't have a dongle, it's controlled by the server.

I do have a question. What does the dongle look like? Blue? says iKey 1000?

Sucks or not, I'm running out of options.

Oh...you can use the floating license but you'll have to be on the local network.

I know it is blue. I'll snap a photo when I get to work.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 07, 2016, 09:20:56 AM
I think I may have found a preps dongle.  :D
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 08, 2016, 10:53:59 AM
Joe, does this look like yours?

Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 08, 2016, 11:00:48 AM
Yes. Exactly like that.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 08, 2016, 11:16:03 AM
Good, now I can go look at new laptops. The boss won't be happy he has to buy CC but it's inevitable.

Of course he'll insist you can buy it in a box and not subscription. I'll be getting links to dusty ebay listings of CS1 he'll offer as proof.

All because chrome won't update on old ass OSes and I can't remote in any longer.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Tracy on June 08, 2016, 11:26:54 AM
Your job is tough, ask for everything that will make your job easier.
It's for the good of the company!!
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 08, 2016, 11:32:46 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on June 08, 2016, 11:16:03 AMGood, now I can go look at new laptops. The boss won't be happy he has to buy CC but it's inevitable.

Of course he'll insist you can buy it in a box and not subscription. I'll be getting links to dusty ebay listings of CS1 he'll offer as proof.

All because chrome won't update on old ass OSes and I can't remote in any longer.

I would make sure that Preps 5 can run on Win 10 before you celebrate because that is probably what the laptop will have on it.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 08, 2016, 12:01:17 PM
I'm looking at win & laptops for that exact reason.

Honestly, I may just not bother and then I can actually have a vacation where I can relax. I don't need to remote in. I set it up to help him out and it was just abused.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 08, 2016, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Farabomb on June 08, 2016, 12:01:17 PMI'm looking at win & laptops for that exact reason.

Honestly, I may just not bother and then I can actually have a vacation where I can relax. I don't need to remote in. I set it up to help him out and it was just abused.

And then if he insists you need to remote in tell him you will need a new iMac, and new Mac laptop, and the Adobe CC subscription. And Preps 7. Let us know how long it takes for the sweat to pop out onto his forehead.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 08, 2016, 12:13:12 PM
You forget the upgrade to prinergy to run all the new gear.

It won't happen and he'll insist since the older stuff works, it's fine.

While he goes out and buys a brand new iPhone and doesn't even know how to use it.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 08, 2016, 12:15:58 PM
I was saving that for later. I doubt he could handle all of it once. No sense causing a heart attack! :rotf:
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 08, 2016, 12:22:09 PM
Oh, and the new platesetter we desperately need. And the Epson that's about the throw it's belt.

But since it works, it's good, right? The dots don't have to be the same.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 08, 2016, 12:23:27 PM
Now you are just trying to kill him! :rotf:
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 08, 2016, 12:38:31 PM
 :dev2:
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 09, 2016, 11:15:20 AM
Was just at microcenter to pick up a new computer for the front office. Besides the myriad of smells that was here it seemed to be let's buy a computer day. Since I was waiting quite a while I putzed around with the laptops. A lot of them were nice and shiny, all metal touch but they still felt like floppy plastic. I was less then impressed with most of them but there were a few that caught my eye.

I still want to get the boss to buy me a new laptop because reasons but should I look into just getting a copy of preps 6? Would that allow me to update OSX without having to upgrade everything? I have EVO so all I need is a .jdf file. Preps 6 spits them out, correct? EVO doesn't have the impo integration like full blown prinergy.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 09, 2016, 11:51:24 AM
I don't even know if you can still buy Preps 6 because it is obsolete. The latest is Preps 7.5 and yes it can spit out a .jdf or a .pjtf. Take your pick.

System requirements for Preps 7.5 is:

Supported operating systems   
Apple Macintosh OS X 10.9
Apple Macintosh OS X 10.10
Apple Macintosh OS X 10.11
Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R1/R2

You had also mentioned getting the CC subscription. System requirements for that are:

InDesign CC (2015) system requirements and language versions

Windows
Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon 64 processor
Microsoft Windows 7 with Service Pack 1, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10
2 GB of RAM (8 GB recommended)
2.6 GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on removable flash storage devices)
1024 x 768 display (1280 x 800 recommended) with 32-bit video card; supports HiDPI display
To use the new InDesign Touch workspace, you must have a touch screen enabled tablet/monitor running Windows 8 or above (such as Microsoft Surface Pro 3) with the screen resolution set to 2160 x 1440 or more
Adobe® Flash® Player 10 software required to export SWF files
Internet connection and registration are necessary for required software activation, validation of subscriptions, and access to online services.*

Mac OS
Multicore Intel processor
Mac OS X v10.9, v10.10 or v10.11
2 GB of RAM (8 GB recommended)
2.5 GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on a volume that uses a case-sensitive file system or on removable flash storage devices)
1024 x 768 display (1280 x 800 recommended) with 32-bit video card; supports Retina display
Adobe® Flash® Player 10 software required to export SWF files.
Internet connection and registration are necessary for required software activation, validation of subscriptions, and access to online services. *
Windows 2012 R2
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 09, 2016, 12:17:18 PM
CC would only be if I got the laptop as well. Hearing the horror stories I don't want to stop using 5 as it works just fine... on old ass OSes.

I'm listening to the SiL bitching how she's going from XP to Win7 and how everything will be different and such. Her son just tells her to be quiet and take the 5 files you use daily, put it on a USB and figure out where they moved everything in the new OS. It can be a pain in the ass but it's not the end of the world.

Well, it is when the bosses computer changes. Those are just hateful times. "how can they do this to me!", "this must be illegal somehow", "why did it change, it works fine just as it was" Mind you he ran a DOS based contact list until only a few years ago. I'm not a huge fan of change but it's really not he end of the world.

I still don't want to learn preps 7.  :angry:
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 09, 2016, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: Farabomb on June 09, 2016, 12:17:18 PMI still don't want to learn preps 7.  :angry:

On the plus side it is pretty much the same as Preps 6.
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 10, 2016, 06:03:28 AM
From what I've read that's not really a plus.  ;)
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 10, 2016, 07:09:24 AM
Kodak says it is great! How dare you defy Kodak!
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Farabomb on June 10, 2016, 07:14:14 AM
Yeah, it's not a good idea to defy a private company with a reactor.

http://gizmodo.com/5909961/kodak-had-a-secret-weapons-grade-nuclear-reactor-hidden-in-a-basement
Title: Re: New laptop
Post by: Joe on June 10, 2016, 07:23:05 AM
Little did anyone know that inside those Dell servers is a miniature nuclear reactor that runs Prinergy. No wonder support costs an arm and a leg.