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Title: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Slappy on February 14, 2018, 03:15:38 PM
I've got a bitch of a job, basically 10 sets of playing cards, with EACH set having a unique backer. I'm generating the VDP backs for each set, but have no easy way to "shuffle" them into the fronts. I'd love to pass off the PDFs and have some wonderful soul combine them!

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Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DigiCorn on February 14, 2018, 03:22:04 PM
worst case scenario, maybe use the pdf and use the multipageimporter script to place in InDesign to marry them up?
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Slappy on February 14, 2018, 03:29:42 PM
Does it import every other page? Haven't tried that before. I have the demo of QI running now, maybe it'll do the trick.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Tracy on February 14, 2018, 03:33:52 PM
Can you do the data backs with the fronts in place so they come out with the fronts and backs?

Use XMF?
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Slappy on February 14, 2018, 03:37:24 PM
Guess i could do a crazy Impo in XMF, not even sure where to start, ugh.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Slappy on February 14, 2018, 03:47:03 PM
Ah, the QI Demo seems to be working!  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DigiCorn on February 14, 2018, 03:59:42 PM
Quote from: Slappy date=1518640182 link=msg=298285

Does it import every other page? Haven't tried that before. I have the demo of QI running now, maybe it'll do the trick.

You can tell it which specific pages to import. But you could always open the pdf and delete a column of unneeded pages and save as a placement file (see screenshot).
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Tracy on February 14, 2018, 06:26:27 PM
Quite Imposing is pretty powerful. Cool Slappy!
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DigiCorn on February 14, 2018, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Tracy date=1518650787 link=msg=298291

Quite Imposing is pretty powerful. Cool Slappy!

Back when I had it, I had a super old version.... like 1.5 or something... and what I liked best about it were the ability to reverse pages and the masking tape.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Slappy on February 14, 2018, 10:09:40 PM
If it can do a few other things well that I find repetitive (looking at YOU, reader spread PDFs I have to manually split more & more) then it's a justifiable investment.

Quote from: DigiCorn link=msg=298289 date=1518641982

Quote from: Slappy date=1518640182 link=msg=298285

Does it import every other page? Haven't tried that before. I have the demo of QI running now, maybe it'll do the trick.

You can tell it which specific pages to import. But you could always open the pdf and delete a column of unneeded pages and save as a placement file (see screenshot).

I'll mess with that if/when I get some time - thanks!
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DCurry on February 15, 2018, 09:09:56 AM
I've got an Automator action thingy that will interleave 2 PDFs if you think it'll help. I've used it successfully when I had a variable job with 2 different parts - a letter and a certificate, and the client wanted to see them together instead of 2 different proof files. Works very well as long as you have 2 different PDFs with the same page count and want to combine them every other page in order. Let me know if you want it.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on February 15, 2018, 10:54:21 AM
What a co-incidence, just had to interleave pdfs that were like.. page 1,3,5,7,9 with another one that was 2,4,6,8,10 and Quite was able to do it.

Quite can do a lot of useful tricks and since we don't have a proper rip at the digital printer, we need it for cut and stacks and such.

Definately not a full feature imposition program but a great tool for a lot of situations.

Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on February 15, 2018, 01:32:56 PM
for example we did a flip book a while back (english and french) so the pdfs were supplied in the regular order but had to rotate and reverse the pages in the french, quite did a good job at this too.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Tracy on February 15, 2018, 01:39:44 PM
Quote from: Slappy date=1518664180 link=msg=298293

If it can do a few other things well that I find repetitive (looking at YOU, reader spread PDFs I have to manually split more & more) then it's a justifiable investment.

Quote from: DigiCorn date=1518641982 link=msg=298289

Quote from: Slappy date=1518640182 link=msg=298285

Does it import every other page? Haven't tried that before. I have the demo of QI running now, maybe it'll do the trick.

You can tell it which specific pages to import. But you could always open the pdf and delete a column of unneeded pages and save as a placement file (see screenshot).

I'll mess with that if/when I get some time - thanks!

You can split pages in pitstop
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DigiCorn on February 15, 2018, 02:47:01 PM
you can split pages in Acrobat
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Slappy on February 15, 2018, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: DCurry link=msg=298294 date=1518703796

I've got an Automator action thingy that will interleave 2 PDFs if you think it'll help. I've used it successfully when I had a variable job with 2 different parts - a letter and a certificate, and the client wanted to see them together instead of 2 different proof files. Works very well as long as you have 2 different PDFs with the same page count and want to combine them every other page in order. Let me know if you want it.

Pleeeeeease!!!!  8)
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Tracy on February 15, 2018, 05:19:35 PM
I'd be interested in checking it out too!!!
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on February 15, 2018, 05:42:33 PM
Many ways to skin a cat, so they say. We all have big toolboxes to work with. :drunk3:
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: mc hristel on February 15, 2018, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd date=1518734553 link=msg=298314

Many ways to skin a cat, so they say. We all have big toolboxes to work with. :drunk3:

This is true, but sadly it often feels like I am using a wrench instead of a hammer, or screwdriver in place of a pry bar...  :undecided:

Has anyone seen my hammer?!?! (looking at you press guy)
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: frailer on February 15, 2018, 08:05:24 PM
Baaack Quite a few years ago, I had cause to ask them a couple of questions on what it could do, (I'm  :old: and forget the detail...may have been on someone's behalf). They were super-nice Scots; very obliging. 
Good to hear they seem to be going from strength to strength.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DCurry on February 16, 2018, 08:24:17 AM
Here's the Automator workflow for those who want it. You start at the top, add the PDFs you want to shuffle, choose how they shuffle in the Combine section, then hit Run at the top right. You pick up the result under the Results tab.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hrahf82qe8atph3/AADvUxFeCBK_LS7sTyTinYL8a?dl=0

Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Slappy on February 20, 2018, 09:18:43 PM
Already used it! Somebody sent in a dozen convention badge files with hundreds of names in each, already merged with all the attendees names -once- but of course wanted them duplexed with the same name on both sides. I just duped each PDF, ran the script with both identical PDFs and BAM! Off to the races.

Gracias Señor Curry!
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DCurry on February 21, 2018, 09:23:34 AM
Yeah, it's pretty sweet - glad it helped. The one job I built it for I had to keep interleaving the proofs and of course they kept making changes, so I got sick of doing it manually and Googled other options and it was SO much easier.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Tracy on February 21, 2018, 11:26:38 AM
I have to update my Quite Imposing before I can use that.
But I'm not sure how you would add that to Quite, can you explain?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Slappy on February 21, 2018, 01:10:45 PM
It's a standlaone Workflow that uses the Mac's built-in magic. One trick pony but ohhh boy does it do that trick well!

p.s. It took me a few times to figure out I had to Open the "Result" PDF & Save As too, I kept searching the Mac for it & honestly not sure where it goes.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DigiCorn on February 21, 2018, 01:15:37 PM
Not sure what version QI is on now, but just installed 1.5 here at work (it's the only version I have). I'll play with the workflow when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DigiCorn on February 21, 2018, 03:05:53 PM
Quote from: DCurry date=1518787457 link=msg=298329

Here's the Automator workflow for those who want it. You start at the top, add the PDFs you want to shuffle, choose how they shuffle in the Combine section, then hit Run at the top right. You pick up the result under the Results tab.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hrahf82qe8atph3/AADvUxFeCBK_LS7sTyTinYL8a?dl=0

ok. I'm retarded. How do you use this thing?
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Slappy on February 21, 2018, 04:38:25 PM
Like dat
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DigiCorn on February 21, 2018, 04:42:34 PM
Thank you!

I double clicked on the .wflow file a bunch of times and nothing happened. I renamed it to .workflow and then it launched, finally.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Tracy on February 22, 2018, 12:24:14 PM
Hey! that's pretty cool, I thought it was a quite plug-in.
Thanks D!
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: frailer on February 22, 2018, 05:34:26 PM
Quote from: DigiCorn date=1519249354 link=msg=298452

Thank you!

I double clicked on the .wflow file a bunch of times and nothing happened. I renamed it to .workflow and then it launched, finally.

I changed it upfront. Thanks for the 'research'.   :P
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on May 18, 2021, 09:39:05 AM
Has anyone ever managed to insert a work and turn signature with Quite Imposing?
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DigiCorn on May 18, 2021, 04:08:39 PM
I *have*. I *think* I had to rotate the pages in Acrobat prior to imposition.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Tracy on May 19, 2021, 09:58:52 AM
been so long since I used quite imposing but I remember it being quite awesome!!
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on May 19, 2021, 01:42:52 PM
I really like it for many different things but have not been able to figure out the way to do a work and turn. Just did a manual imposition as we do not really do alot of books here.

I had asked the tech support when we had it and they mentioned something about writing an xml script and I just gave up on it.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: DigiCorn on May 19, 2021, 01:53:22 PM
I only had access to a very old version of Quite. The one I had was very remedial. It was like v 1.5 or v2. I think I imposed my W&Turn as a 4-up, but rotated the pages in Acrobat before impo to trick Quite into making a W&Turn. I don't think the version I had offered the option, or if it did, I don't think it worked quite right.

Until I came to my *current* (I use the term loosely, because I'm not entirely sure I work there anymore) purely digital shop, I primarily used Preps for everything. For digital, I use CWS and the impose dongle to do my electronic stripping. I really only used Quite for page numbering, or for the white out option on scans that the originals were 3-hole drilled and I needed to removed the shadowing.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on May 19, 2021, 02:09:31 PM
It is still pretty archaic in the way you have to impose but you can record the actions as a sequence and use it again for future use.


You have to enter something like this for an 8 page form for sheetwork: 8> 5< 1> 4< 6> 7< 5> 2< with the <> causing a rotation but that will not work with a work and turn form. It worked great on an 88 page book that was 11 equal forms but many jobs we might do contains a work and turn.

Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on May 19, 2021, 02:20:01 PM
But I use Quite for many other tricks that I could not do without it.


Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Joe on May 19, 2021, 03:58:13 PM
I don't have quite imposing but a Work and Turn is about as simple as you can get in imposing something. For example here is a Work and Turn Preps template. I would think you could duplicate this in Quite Imposing without much trouble.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on May 19, 2021, 04:40:08 PM
I know, preps is pretty easy, i have used it in the past when we did more books. Quite is more “code like” when setting things up. Hard to explain unless you use it but you can record what you do and play back when needed. For example, you have to setup your registration marks, color bars, sideguides, etc. on a separate pdf and drop them in as “pdf pages” in your sequence. The imposition will only include pages and trim marks. I think i will contact Quite again and ask them for the script they had sent. I am about 30 percent smarter with coding now than i used to be so i may be able to figure it out.
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: Joe on May 19, 2021, 04:50:39 PM
Sounds rather imposing to me. :rotf:
Title: Re: Any Quite Imposing Users?
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on May 19, 2021, 05:11:35 PM
Yes, rather. It is kinda challenging and addictive however. Ya just gotta figure it out damnit!