Kodak Prinergy Digital Submit and Digital Direct?

[RMPrepress]

Who is using or has used Digital Submit and Digital Direct to move jobs to their digital presses?
Does everyone impose at their digital boxes or do you use Preps and submit already imposed files to your digital presses?

Just curious how others hand off jobs from prepress dept. to digital press dept...
Is prepress and digital two separate departments or one,
or do digital press jobs all get handle by the digital press dept.
 

[DCurry]

We don't use Digital Submit or Digital Direct. We either pre-impose about half of our work (using Prinergy and Preps), the rest gets pushed directly to the digital presses where it hits queues that impose on the fly at press, either specific layouts or N-up tickets.

Our prepress is a separate dept. from digital press.

[born2print]

We really don't have any workflow connectivity for the digital presses so we use Preps and submit already imposed files to your digital presses
Which is a bit risky as you do not have the safety benefits of the render once / output many workflow. Like if they make a proof and keep that file at the press but we make changes and they don't grab the new file... That said, we really don't have issues, I guess everyone is careful enough.

[RMPrepress]

Thanks,  we pretty much treat digital the same as offset in that we run them all the way through workshop and then the final output is an imposed PDF via a PT that drops the PDF into DigitalPrint folder in the Jobs/job folder.
Then we copy those imposed PDF's into shared Digital Proof only and then shared Digital Print only folders.
Then the digital press operators import them into the digital press queue's when they are ready to proof or print.

Was just recently looking into how to streamline that whole process but I think it is really the best way to go.
There is no way we can trust the digital press operators to impose jobs properly... .

[Tracy]

Prepress/Digital Separate over here

I am pretty careful with my files too, I told the copy guy never to print from printed que because of possible changes, 
only from the held que, I send the files there after approval only now.
I use to do it different but this way is less thinking.

I do layouts in indesign and XMF yes it is a bit scary like Born said, but I haven't had a problem yet. 

[DCurry]

We don't send any files to the queues until they are approved. The operators know where to get the imposed files for a job if they need it.

[DigiCorn]

I HATED impo on the Fiery, so I imposed digital in Preps before sending to CWS, just like I imposed files for offset... when I worked in that environment. Later, when we were all digital, I had no choice but to embrace CWS impo.

[madbugger]

we have a fuji xerox J75 digital and use cws for all imposition on it.

works fine for our environment

[scottrsimons]

We also use Preps for our digital jobs just like our offset jobs. Which we have Indigos and a couple Ricoh B&W that runs Fiery. We are using Preps because we have systems on our cutters that use the cutting files the Preps create to automate the cutting process.

The only jobs that don't run through Preps are variable jobs. And they are either IMPO'd in FusionPro or on the Indigo.

[Slappy]

Interesting to hear how everybody is handling file submissions to digital machines. I think we're in the minority on this, as our digital operators have always been the ones to impo on Command Workstation-with the rare exception.

Now that we also have an Indigo, of course the sheet prep for that hardware falls squarely on Prepress & I'm increasingly leaning on the HP software's template system & hot folders. Since we don't have a clear path out of XMF to the digitals, I've resisted using it for those devices. I tried doing a booklet on it recently that required excessive creep, but damned if I could remember how to have it export the imposed 2up PDF.