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swampymarsh:

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$13,500 x 14 users = $189,000. :faint:

You can get a lot of Adobe CC for $189,000!

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One would hope that there would be volume licensing discounts after a set number of users!

swampymarsh:

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According to the Fuji guy I talked to late last week, they are going to be using Packz as a module for XMF to create a packaging-specific workflow!

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A little while back Kodak released a press release stating that they had formed a partnership and will be including Packz into a Prinergy Powerpack bundle.

beermonster:
yeah but in reality how many of these actually sell - i just dont see many new investments in the current climate to get a new workflow and associated plug ins etc - esko has got it sown up clean

swampymarsh:

--- Quote from: beermonster date=1420185886 link=msg=264233 ---
yeah but in reality how many of these actually sell - i just dont see many new investments in the current climate to get a new workflow and associated plug ins etc - esko has got it sown up clean

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Esko do have the packaging market sewn up in many areas. This market has been their main focus.

The common thing that I hear from users is that they mostly love the software, but really really hate the company and pricing and licensing options. When the pain is great enough, these people look elsewhere. Part of the issue is that they may not even know that an alternative exists.

There are many “up front” creative and prepress tasks that Esko do well and it may be hard to replace them. Then there are many other tasks that other software may do just as good, if not better. The entire Esko system does not have to be replaced in these cases, just certain parts.

It is a similar story with Adobe.

beermonster:
yeah true - i agree totally and the licensing thing is a real pita

we have desighners who take "ard" one ups from cad (artios), expand structural design layers as needed and dezine away. dozens and dozens of external agencies etc do the same thing (its awesome when they change a window on a flexo job and dont tell us - then wonder why there's a 1200 pound charge for a new rotry die)

when we get that artwork, we replace the expanded ard with a live ard that is linked to the multi up mfg layout. we also expand the bleed layer to create varnish plates if needed - which in food and fmcg is very very important.

we also use the dynamic barcodes all the time, and power trapper for everything (powercrapper as i call it is - well - not brilliant)

all of this is before it heads into plato and automation engine - so if the software can fit into these stages and handle those things then i CAN see a place for it in larger companies like mine. IF it becomes successful - well wont esko just buy it and shelve it (odobe - freehand....)?

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