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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2011, 02:41:14 PM »
I would like to use the word Kafkaesque on a regular basis, but for some reason, I just can't seem to get the hang of it...
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2011, 02:57:29 PM »
If describing client files I can use Kakaesque on a regular basis.
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2011, 03:08:10 PM »

If describing client files I can use Kakaesque on a regular basis.


That is shittyesque...
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2011, 03:12:44 PM »


Depends™.

Do you use the word Kafkaesque on a regular basis? Do you wear black frame eyeglasses? Ironic 80s soda pop tshirts?


No. No. No.


You will not fit in at an urban coffeeshop. Let's try a different approach: do you have a woodworker's beard and a golden retriever?
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2011, 03:15:24 PM »



Depends™.

Do you use the word Kafkaesque on a regular basis? Do you wear black frame eyeglasses? Ironic 80s soda pop tshirts?


No. No. No.


You will not fit in at an urban coffeeshop. Let's try a different approach: do you have a woodworker's beard and a golden retriever?


No. No.
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2011, 03:21:32 PM »
Do you ride a vintage motorcycle and read philosophy books?

We are running out of avenues here...

What are you, one of those "regular guys"?  :whip:
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2011, 03:24:57 PM »
No. No.

I guess.
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2011, 03:30:29 PM »
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Mac OS

• Intel® Core™ Duo or faster processor

• Mac OS X v10.6 or higher

• 512MB of RAM (1GB recommended)

• Adobe® AIR® 2.7 or higher


All my Macs are running 10.5 or lower. Guess I won't be demo'ing Muse. Boo hoo.

WTF is Adobe Air? No thanks!
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2011, 03:43:42 PM »
adobe air is special air for those of us that worship the god that is adobe.

oh, we're not allowed to use capital letters, it's kafkaesque.


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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2011, 04:38:27 PM »
how quarky and web2.0 of you.
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2011, 05:28:51 PM »
After running the Muse site, built with Muse, thru the W3C validators:

HTML Validation Output: 18 Errors

CSS: Sorry! We found the following errors (677)


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Have fun, dezingers. Joe, I hope you or I don't end up taking over one of these POS sites.
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So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2011, 05:30:26 PM »
Just looking at the source code of the Muse home page makes me want to barf. That layout could be hand coded with like 99% less code.  :death:
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2011, 05:36:29 PM »

they said it wasn't pretty

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Granted, the code Muse generates isn’t going to win any awards, but in most cases, a designer’s clients (and those clients’ customers) aren’t going to be too concerned if the end result is a super slick, magazine-like website that perfectly matches their signage and other print collateral.



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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2011, 05:36:40 PM »

After running the Muse site, built with Muse, thru the W3C validators:

HTML Validation Output: 18 Errors

CSS: Sorry! We found the following errors (677)


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Have fun, dezingers. Joe, I hope you or I don't end up taking over one of these POS sites.


Right now it's in beta and free. Once it goes live you can't buy it. It is on a subscription only. $20 a month or $180 per year. And it is not a replacement for Dreamweaver. It is a replacement for iWeb. Dreamweaver lives on...

Much like what CS6 is going to except CS6 will be much more per month/per year.
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Re: Design and publish HTML websites without writing code
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2011, 05:47:58 PM »
Well, the code purist community is going to squirm and seethe when they see sites being built with this crap tool.

I bet it's bloated as crap, too. Like all the other Adobe stuff.

BTW, I saw Photoshop v.3 for sale at the thrift store (with floppy installers) for $3.99. I've never used v.3 but I bet it can do 90% of what I used PS for in general prepress.
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"As much as I'd like your guns I prefer your buns." - The G

So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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