Dreamweaver

Chilbear · August 30, 2010, 01:46:38 PM

There must be temporal rip in the force today. I sat and took the order for a full colour catalogue, including design and said sure I can do a web site from scratch. Just finished upgrading to CS5 and I also have to come up to speed.
Should be a busy Fall - thanks for the free web school link.

DigiCorn · August 30, 2010, 01:58:36 PM

Quote from: youston on August 30, 2010, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: digital@sig-1.com on August 30, 2010, 01:34:26 PM
Quote from: youston on August 30, 2010, 01:18:34 PM
Quote from: digital@sig-1.com on August 30, 2010, 12:58:59 PMThese are the tools I have and presumably at some point understand relatively quickly.

You don't have a text editor and a web browser?
I don't understand the interwebs. I have those things, and I'm still a monkey fucking a football.

So what are you going to do after you've spent a month designing a great site and then learn that Dreamweaver writes shitty html that needs to be corrected ... with code ... by hand?

We put together about 3 Dreamweaver projects a month, and have been doing so for a few years. Every one of them has required that we 'fix' Dreamweaver's code by hand.

I don't think I can desing a site complicated enough to have issues yet :cry:

gnubler · August 30, 2010, 02:14:56 PM

For Mac: TextWrangler

For Win: HTML Kit

Both fine text editors and 100% free, if you're hand coding/editing.

Joe · August 30, 2010, 02:17:21 PM

TextWrangler for the win here.

I haven't tried this but if you want to do flash and don't want to do coding you can give it a try.

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gnubler · August 30, 2010, 02:50:52 PM

"Stunning" LOL

I'd love to see the Flash masterpieces that come out of that.

Doing one of those freebie, auto-build sites for a business is unprofessional, IMO.

Joe · August 30, 2010, 03:03:00 PM

Quote from: gnubler on August 30, 2010, 02:50:52 PM"Stunning" LOL

I'd love to see the Flash masterpieces that come out of that.

Doing one of those freebie, auto-build sites for a business is unprofessional, IMO.

Ditto

Tracy · August 30, 2010, 03:06:47 PM

dig sig, once you start building the site, you will prolly be able to see the code
and might even start understanding it, and make the adjustments needed.
no worries! go for it!

DigiCorn · August 30, 2010, 03:40:09 PM

I think I basically "get" the basics behind Dreamweaver. I'm just not able to manipulate the placement of things the way I'd like. It's not InDesign or Illustrator - it's its own unique bastardized hybrid animal and I'm really struggling with getting things aligned the way I want. That and I don't totally understand how to work with banners and master page items. And I'm sure I'll struggle with trying to integrate a pdf form into a page as well when I get to that point. I think what I'm trying to do is pretty simple... a 4 page website with a master header and footer (appears on all pages), with a welcome page, a contact page, a form for quote request page, and an about us page. I know what I want to do; what I want it to look like... I just can't do it. Watching video after video for help.

gnubler · August 30, 2010, 04:31:53 PM

Quote from: digital@sig-1.com on August 30, 2010, 03:40:09 PMI think I basically "get" the basics behind Dreamweaver. I'm just not able to manipulate the placement of things the way I'd like. It's not InDesign or Illustrator - it's its own unique bastardized hybrid animal and I'm really struggling with getting things aligned the way I want.

This is exactly why DW is a curse. Dump it and learn HTML & CSS if you want to be able to put together a customized website properly. It'll never work if you just jump into it, I guarantee it.

youston · August 30, 2010, 04:35:40 PM

Quote from: gnubler on August 30, 2010, 04:31:53 PM
Quote from: digital@sig-1.com on August 30, 2010, 03:40:09 PMI think I basically "get" the basics behind Dreamweaver. I'm just not able to manipulate the placement of things the way I'd like. It's not InDesign or Illustrator - it's its own unique bastardized hybrid animal and I'm really struggling with getting things aligned the way I want.

This is exactly why DW is a curse. Dump it and learn HTML & CSS if you want to be able to put together a customized website properly. It'll never work if you just jump into it, I guarantee it.

Digital@, this is a situation where people who do this kind of stuff and know what they're talking about are telling you about the realities of web design, and you, who by your own admission know nothing about this sort of thing, are steadfastly insisting that these are NOT the realities of web design. I hate to say it, man, but this is VERY sausage-like behavior. :undecided:

Joe · August 30, 2010, 04:36:16 PM

Quote from: gnubler on August 30, 2010, 04:31:53 PM
Quote from: digital@sig-1.com on August 30, 2010, 03:40:09 PMI think I basically "get" the basics behind Dreamweaver. I'm just not able to manipulate the placement of things the way I'd like. It's not InDesign or Illustrator - it's its own unique bastardized hybrid animal and I'm really struggling with getting things aligned the way I want.

This is exactly why DW is a curse. Dump it and learn HTML & CSS if you want to be able to put together a customized website properly. It'll never work if you just jump into it, I guarantee it.

Sort of like people that jump into printing without learning the trade? We have a name for them. :laugh:

gnubler · August 30, 2010, 04:49:06 PM

Art school grads?

Joe · August 30, 2010, 04:52:23 PM

Guess again.

gnubler · August 30, 2010, 04:57:56 PM

Sausage desingers? :laugh:

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