JOB KNOWLEDGE AND EDUCATION
College Diploma in Digital production / Digital media arts / Digital design. Knowledge in:
Professional publishing applications for MAC OS or PC including: Quark Express, Adobe PageMaker, Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Word and Corel Draw, Print Ready or Prinergy.
Adequate knowledge of Macintosh and Windows platforms and operating systems.
Knowledge of PDF and postscript files and PDF plug-ins.
Ability to prepare files for output to press (spot and 4-colour process), receive and manipulate file electronically and maintain operating system on production machine.
Knowledge of printing terminology and practices.
Quality Control
Fine Arts
QuarkXpress and Adobe PAgemaker, 1,2 on the :drunk3: list? WTF
Corel draw? WTF :drunk3:
part of a job description posted today by a fairly well known large company around here. :drunk3: I know, its Canada, :drunk3: but WTF :drunk3:
Probably a stock description some HR tool has had in his desk for 15 years.
What gets me is when they add the "College Diploma in Digital production / Digital media arts / Digital design." I can't speak for Canada but I see these types of ads around here all the time and it is usually followed by "wages start at $8.00 per hour"! And then these places will complain when they get some tool with a college diploma that doesn't know shit about printing or most of the software on the list.
QuoteAdequate knowledge of Macintosh and Windows platforms and operating systems.
:lmao:
Yeah, "adequate" knowledge should do the trick!
Most likely a company that receives files from all over the world. Quark I use everyday because of repeat jobs that were originally created and recreated in Quark. This company most likely has a client who still uses Pageraker, although Indy can open those files. No mention of FreeHand or Live Picture. My understanding is Corel is very popular in some parts of Europe, Africa, Asia.
Quote from: jimking on April 29, 2014, 06:55:48 AMMy understanding is Corel is very popular in some parts of Europe, Africa, Asia.
It might be used a lot but it's not very popular at all.
Many sign shops or shops that do screenprinting and/or embroidery use Corel Draw also
Quote from: StudioMonkey on April 29, 2014, 09:08:00 AMQuote from: jimking on April 29, 2014, 06:55:48 AMMy understanding is Corel is very popular in some parts of Europe, Africa, Asia.
It might be used a lot but it's not very popular at all.
Very popular in Cuba too, I'm sure U.S. companies don't do "Cuban" but we've done quite a bit over the years.
Actually pumped out some high quality Cuban travel magazines from Corel draw. Exporting decent pdfs was not too hard because the files were set up properly.
Can you get a college degree in prepress? Or, excuse me, digital production? Job postings like that make me so angry. For the time you have to put in to become adept at these programs on both platforms and then they're going to offer you $15/hr. It's crazy.
They want the moon and stars but don't want to pay for it.
Quote from: DesigniaToo on May 02, 2014, 10:40:35 AMCan you get a college degree in prepress? Or, excuse me, digital production? Job postings like that make me so angry. For the time you have to put in to become adept at these programs on both platforms and then they're going to offer you $15/hr. It's crazy.
Especially if minimum wage goes up to $13 hr.
What never made any sense to me is a dezinger with a degree knows NOTHING about printing, and makes $50/hr and does nothing but schmooze clients. A prepresser knows everything, but has no degree, fixes everything the dezinger does, and makes the client happy, but makes half as much and does three times as much work. In what world does that make sense?
That's really fucked up, man.
Quote from: born2print on May 02, 2014, 11:30:18 AMQuote from: DesigniaToo on May 02, 2014, 10:40:35 AMCan you get a college degree in prepress? Or, excuse me, digital production? Job postings like that make me so angry. For the time you have to put in to become adept at these programs on both platforms and then they're going to offer you $15/hr. It's crazy.
Especially if minimum wage goes up to $13 hr.
Never gonna happen.
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 02, 2014, 11:36:45 AMWhat never made any sense to me is a dezinger with a degree knows NOTHING about printing, and makes $50/hr and does nothing but schmooze clients. A prepresser knows everything, but has no degree, fixes everything the dezinger does, and makes the client happy, but makes half as much and does three times as much work. In what world does that make sense?
That's really fucked up, man.
Because you don't prostitute yourself like a $2 hooker?
Quote from: Joe on May 02, 2014, 12:55:27 PMQuote from: born2print on May 02, 2014, 11:30:18 AMQuote from: DesigniaToo on May 02, 2014, 10:40:35 AMCan you get a college degree in prepress? Or, excuse me, digital production? Job postings like that make me so angry. For the time you have to put in to become adept at these programs on both platforms and then they're going to offer you $15/hr. It's crazy.
Especially if minimum wage goes up to $13 hr.
Never gonna happen.
Washington State just raised the minimum to $15. That's the min. in Australia also and one of the reasons it didn't go tits up when the rest of the world did.
Hey, at least he didn't require knowledge in Publisher.
the bright side? hahahahahaha
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 02, 2014, 11:36:45 AMWhat never made any sense to me is a dezinger with a degree knows NOTHING about printing, and makes $50/hr and does nothing but schmooze clients. A prepresser knows everything, but has no degree, fixes everything the dezinger does, and makes the client happy, but makes half as much and does three times as much work. In what world does that make sense?
That's really fucked up, man.
In the world of ad agencies, for one. Some of that salaries they pay people at my Wife's place are downright obscene, and many of those designers are early in their careers too.
Quote from: pspdfppdfx on April 28, 2014, 05:16:50 PMKnowledge of printing terminology and practices.
Quality Control
Fine Arts
Wait - what?
Fine Arts... wayyyy better than Regular Arts or the Low Down Arts.
Quote from: david on June 13, 2014, 08:23:54 AMFine Arts... wayyyy better than Regular Arts or the Low Down Arts.
You guys are totally reading this wrong. It's 'fine' as in not 'thick' or 'ultra fine,' or 'chisel tip.'
oh, sorry, my bad
that's a fine how'd you do.
Quote from: david on June 13, 2014, 08:23:54 AMFine Arts... wayyyy better than Regular Arts or the Low Down Arts.
I mastered in the Dark Arts. With Professor Snape.
I did too! Only I had Professor Plum.
In the library.
with a rope.
I thought it was a candlestick?
I get to be the thimble!
Quote from: david on June 13, 2014, 12:48:45 PMI thought it was a candlestick?
Back in 2010, on this very forum, it was the lead pipe.
Quote from: youston on June 13, 2014, 03:04:17 PMQuote from: david on June 13, 2014, 12:48:45 PMI thought it was a candlestick?
Back in 2010, on this very forum, it was the lead pipe.
... ah, youston's back. :cool: