Our guy that does all the backups said when he copies jobs to dvd and we have alias files/folders in the job linking to art, previous job, whatever, the alias is picking up the actual jobs and including them in the backup.
Is there a way to not include the alias' linked files? I've looked for this, but must be looking in all the wrong places.
L
Quote from: Nivin on November 25, 2014, 02:35:48 PMOur guy that does all the backups said when he copies jobs to dvd and we have alias files/folders in the job linking to art, previous job, whatever, the alias is picking up the actual jobs and including them in the backup.
Is there a way to not include the alias' linked files? I've looked for this, but must be looking in all the wrong places.
L
Why would you archive aliases and not the actual files? How is he burning them? Talk to me.
In our active job folder, we often link to older jobs for reference. When backing up (actually archiving) we don't need to archive those jobs twice (or more). But we would like to retain the alias because it will show the reference. When it picks up the alias' job, the archives get huge.
Hope this made sense.
Quote from: Nivin on November 25, 2014, 02:45:42 PMIn our active job folder, we often link to older jobs for reference. When backing up (actually archiving) we don't need to archive those jobs twice (or more). But we would like to retain the alias because it will show the reference. When it picks up the alias' job, the archives get huge.
Hope this made sense.
It does, thanks for explaining. What software are you using to burn these archives?
You need to break the link between the 2. Move the files somewhere else, or nesting them in a folder should do the trick. The point is breaking the link to the aliases so that they can't/won't pull the linked files by hiding them.
I end up putting a text file with the job # or a shortcut with the job # in my jobs that I pickup. You won't have the link but you'll know the job #.
Our guy said he has hundreds of jobs to archive. At the moment he is copying to a drive connected to his mac, then disconnecting from the network, so the alias' can't find their links. We talked about looking for the alias files and removing before archiving, but some are still active. And we really don't want to lose the alias itself. We're trying to find a faster solution than touching each job.
So what software is he using that actually goes and finds the linked files?
Quote from: Joe on November 25, 2014, 04:04:24 PMSo what software is he using that actually goes and finds the linked files?
Good question. :lmao:
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on November 25, 2014, 04:18:51 PMQuote from: Joe on November 25, 2014, 04:04:24 PMSo what software is he using that actually goes and finds the linked files?
Good question. :lmao:
Nothing I know of will go and get the original file of an alias so I had to ask? I've had people send me a DVD full of aliases before and there wasn't any of the linked files included. :rotf:
Quote from: Joe on November 25, 2014, 04:26:29 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on November 25, 2014, 04:18:51 PMQuote from: Joe on November 25, 2014, 04:04:24 PMSo what software is he using that actually goes and finds the linked files?
Good question. :lmao:
Nothing I know of will go and get the original file of an alias so I had to ask? I've had people send me a DVD full of aliases before and there wasn't any of the linked files included. :rotf:
Well, you've asked him once, I have asked him twice... I was going in the same place you were with that particular question.
In 2014, I don't understand why anyone would still back up to DVD, unless they were really bored and needed to fill the time...
If backing up to DVD, I can't see how you would not use something like NeoFinder (http://www.cdfinder.de/)
Used to be CD finder before, by the looks. Once they're catalogued, it's seconds to search for anything on any of the DVDs. A waste of time otherwise.
Or am I rabbiting on about nothing here... :shocked: (Geez these emoticons are ugly, Joe).
Quote from: frailer on November 25, 2014, 07:18:07 PMIn 2014, I don't understand why anyone would still back up to DVD, unless they were really bored and needed to fill the time...
If backing up to DVD, I can't see how you would not use something like NeoFinder (http://www.cdfinder.de/)
Used to be CD finder before, by the looks. Once they're catalogued, it's seconds to search for anything on any of the DVDs. A waste of time otherwise.
Or am I rabbiting on about nothing here... :shocked: (Geez these emoticons are ugly, Joe).
I use DiskCatalogMaker (http://diskcatalogmaker.com/) here but I have it to catalog hard drives since we backup to hard drives instead of DVD.
(yeah, I've been meaning to replace those emoticons...just haven't gotten around to it yet.)
:D Ignore me; the current ones may be more suited to grumpy old man. Me.
He's not using any special software. He said that OS 10.7.5 automatically brings in the linked files. (I'm going to need to test this myself.)
We're using DiskTracker for the cataloging.
Old habits die hard. :deadhorse:
Quote from: Nivin on November 26, 2014, 08:04:50 AMHe's not using any special software. He said that OS 10.7.5 automatically brings in the linked files. (I'm going to need to test this myself.)
We're using DiskTracker for the cataloging.
Old habits die hard. :deadhorse:
I can certainly see the system doing that, JUST using the system to BU. I use Toast myself, and burn Blu-Rays. Too much work to archive burning to DVDs, I'd have 500 of them for one year alone. Files are getting WAY too big to even consider that an option.
BTW, Niven, I apologize for referring to you as a "him". Joe was gracious enough to correct me on that matter. :lmao:
See? Old people still have uses.
No worries. I could have corrected you myself. You can call me Linda. :hello:
Quote from: Nivin on November 26, 2014, 08:49:48 AMNo worries. I could have corrected you myself. You can call me Linda. :hello:
You can call me whatever you want. :lmao:
OK, I'm trying to make that work. I create an alias to a file. Copy the alias to my external drive. It does NOT copy the original. I delete the alias it does not delete the original. I burn the alias to a DVD is does NOT copy the original.
Try it using the "Burn" folder. Seems to make a difference.
And we're hoping we don't need to copy to the hard drive first. Just into the Burn folder.
Just wanted to let you know I appreciate the info everyone supplied. :)
Quote from: Nivin on November 26, 2014, 12:36:15 PMAnd we're hoping we don't need to copy to the hard drive first. Just into the Burn folder.
Okay. I just tried this. See attached image. On the far right are two aliases pointing to two zip files shown in the middle Finder window. I burned those two aliases to a CD shown in the far left Finder window where it only burned the aliases and not the original files. I've tried everything I can think of to make it burn both but the only way I can make that work is to actually drag both the aliases and the originals to the burn folder. Nothing I attempt to make OS X copy or burn the originals just by copying or burning the aliases work. Only the aliases copy or burn.