iMac Pro (https://www.apple.com/imac-pro/)
Everyone in line buy one or ten of these in December when they become available? Starting price $4,999.
we spec'd one out for here just to see what the price would be...
drum roll...
over 7000 us dollars.
:shocked:
Wow, I will have to read what you are getting for that huge investment. If there is a ROI for anybody it may be worth it but for prepress, I doubt it. Maybe its just a status symbol like a Ferrari.
1080p FaceTime HD camera
Do you really want to see MY face in 1080p? I doubt it.
Operating altitude: tested up to 16,400 feet (5000 meters)
That's useful if you are working on the top of a mountain.
:drunk3:
8-Core 10-Core 18-Core
Do you really need 18 cores?
500 nits brightness
I'll have to get out my prescription bifocals to work on this baby.
But what the hell is a nit anyway? Sounds like a bug.
it'll have macOS High Sierra
(the end of the upgrade line for my 2010 iMac?)
I'm not sure what software is out there that would use 18 cores... I barely use 1.
yeah, I had to look up the nit as well:
Quote2) In lighting, the nit is a unit of visible-light intensity, commonly used to specify the brightness of a cathode ray tube or liquid crystal display computer display. One nit is equivalent to one candela per square meter.
The Nit is the standard unit of luminance used to describe various sources of light. A higher rating means a brighter display. Displays for laptops and mobile devices are usually between 200 and 300 nits on average.
Quote from: david on June 08, 2017, 08:28:55 AMwe spec'd one out for here just to see what the price would be...
drum roll...
over 7000 us dollars.
:shocked:
Well.... I would hope to get free shipping at that price.
For that price Tim Cook should bring it to your door and set it up.
Just how overpriced is Apple's new iMac Pro? (http://www.zdnet.com/article/just-how-overpriced-is-apples-new-imac-pro/?loc=newsletter_large_thumb_featured&ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=20703142171098067451473055926429)
Yes, that pretty well says it all.
And how many eggs will it fry at one time?
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 08:41:33 AMit'll have macOS High Sierra
(the end of the upgrade line for my 2010 iMac?)
Got a bit of down time (rare event) maybe I'll get into the High Sierra beta testing program....
NOT
Quote from: Possum on June 08, 2017, 09:05:39 AMAnd how many eggs will it fry at one time?
My 2010 iMac seems hot enough along the top to fry an egg. Wait, it's not wide enough.... maybe a :drunk3: piece of bacon?
(bacon = meat candy).
:drunk3:
The configuration attached will run all the needs of ANY pre-press environment for quite some time.
The new "Pro" models are really if you are doing 3D rendering in real time, Solid Works, any type of VR, or major code compiling.
It also fits perfect into any form of major broadcasting. An 18 core with matching graphics card would allow you to drop HD Graphics, in real time on a multi display 1080P display. Think of any major sports broadcast with score overlays happening in real time and that is the customer.
For the rest of us we get an awesome machine for $1699 that should last 5-7 years.
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 09:08:02 AMQuote from: Possum on June 08, 2017, 09:05:39 AMAnd how many eggs will it fry at one time?
My 2010 iMac seems hot enough along the top to fry an egg. Wait, it's not wide enough.... maybe a :drunk3: piece of bacon?
(bacon = meat candy).
:drunk3:
Anything below the 2013 model is H-O-T! The 2012 I had also served as a space heater in the winter. It eventually fried itself and Apple replaced it with a 2013 model. My 2013 iMac doesn't even get warm.
Here, here! :drunk3:
I think THAT just about says it all.
But I am sure there are more comments coming anyway.
Quote from: Santa on June 08, 2017, 09:08:58 AMThe configuration attached will run all the needs of ANY pre-press environment for quite some time.
The new "Pro" models are really if you are doing 3D rendering in real time, Solid Works, any type of VR, or major code compiling.
It also fits perfect into any form of major broadcasting. An 18 core with matching graphics card would allow you to drop HD Graphics, in real time on a multi display 1080P display. Think of any major sports broadcast with score overlays happening in real time and that is the customer.
For the rest of us we get an awesome machine for $1699 that should last 5-7 years.
Agreed though I would at least double that RAM if you are running CC 2017. Or quadruple it if the cash is available.
Quote from: Joe on June 08, 2017, 09:12:06 AMQuote from: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 09:08:02 AMQuote from: Possum on June 08, 2017, 09:05:39 AMAnd how many eggs will it fry at one time?
My 2010 iMac seems hot enough along the top to fry an egg. Wait, it's not wide enough.... maybe a :drunk3: piece of bacon?
(bacon = meat candy).
:drunk3:
Anything below the 2013 model is H-O-T! The 2012 I had also served as a space heater in the winter. It eventually fried itself and Apple replaced it with a 2013 model. My 2013 iMac doesn't even get warm.
Yeah, it's nice to have in the winter, but not in the summer.
If I sit too close I might get a burn mark across my forehead!
Quote from: Joe on June 08, 2017, 09:13:20 AMQuote from: Santa on June 08, 2017, 09:08:58 AMThe configuration attached will run all the needs of ANY pre-press environment for quite some time.
The new "Pro" models are really if you are doing 3D rendering in real time, Solid Works, any type of VR, or major code compiling.
It also fits perfect into any form of major broadcasting. An 18 core with matching graphics card would allow you to drop HD Graphics, in real time on a multi display 1080P display. Think of any major sports broadcast with score overlays happening in real time and that is the customer.
For the rest of us we get an awesome machine for $1699 that should last 5-7 years.
Agreed though I would at least double that RAM if you are running CC 2017. Or quadruple it if the cash is available.
True enough, I have 16GB on my iMac and once in a while run out of system memory. I'd look for a MINIMUM
WHOOPS
Naw, my little finger started twitching and hitting the return button.
:drunk3: :drunk3:
Ahh, that's better.
What I was TRYING to say was I'd be looking for a bare minimum 16GB hopefully more.
Quote from: Joe on June 08, 2017, 09:13:20 AMQuote from: Santa on June 08, 2017, 09:08:58 AMThe configuration attached will run all the needs of ANY pre-press environment for quite some time.
The new "Pro" models are really if you are doing 3D rendering in real time, Solid Works, any type of VR, or major code compiling.
It also fits perfect into any form of major broadcasting. An 18 core with matching graphics card would allow you to drop HD Graphics, in real time on a multi display 1080P display. Think of any major sports broadcast with score overlays happening in real time and that is the customer.
For the rest of us we get an awesome machine for $1699 that should last 5-7 years.
Agreed though I would at least double that RAM if you are running CC 2017. Or quadruple it if the cash is available.
All 27 inches have user replaceable ram so I usually go with stock and then upgrade via crucial.com when needed.
The new one goes to 32gb and by the time I need that crucial will probably be selling it for $20 per 8gb..lol
Here is my Activity monitor right now, using 7GB and nothing much is going on. Once Indesign, Photoshop, Acrobat, Illustrator start getting used alot, the memory use starts blowing up like a balloon.
(http://i.imgur.com/G26Ctdh.jpg)
Is there any way to take a screen shot when you go "command-tab" to show how many apps you have open?
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 09:08:02 AMQuote from: Possum on June 08, 2017, 09:05:39 AMAnd how many eggs will it fry at one time?
My 2010 iMac seems hot enough along the top to fry an egg. Wait, it's not wide enough.... maybe a :drunk3: piece of bacon?
(bacon = meat candy).
:drunk3:
Bacon + Maple Syrup = meat candy.
Cook bacon in oven or pan at low temp (cast iron as low as the burner can go) to get it crisp on the outside but chewy on the inside. Toss bacon in maple syrup and bake in oven to caramelize syrup. Call pharmacy to refill lipitor and enjoy.
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 09:55:15 AMIs there any way to take a screen shot when you go "command-tab" to show how many apps you have open?
Be really, really fast! :rotf:
(
Yes I can not be a smartass if I try!)
"Ram is like peanuts to an elephant. The more you give it the more it wants."
There was a way..... timed screenshot from the "Grab" utility.
(http://i.imgur.com/f874s5d.jpg)
Quote from: Santa on June 08, 2017, 10:58:59 AM"Ram is like peanuts to an elephant. The more you give it the more it wants."
What's with the activity monitors showing up?
It's like "I'll show you mine if you show me yours".
Hey, new topic maybe? Like: "Show us your pets" "show us your activity monitor."
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 11:08:17 AMThere was a way..... timed screenshot from the "Grab" utility.
(http://i.imgur.com/f874s5d.jpg)
NOTE: I do not have Leisure Suit Larry open.
But you do have a squirrel.
Strange...never noticed the easy find logo was a squirrel. Who's that squirrel person around here?
That would be Gnub.
Been a long time gone.
Oh yes, the name rings a bell.
If i win the lottery I would buy one of those Imacs for the house.
I'm sure it would be fun to take one for a test drive too.
Solution, get more RAM. I have a lot of stuff running and no problems.
I got the solid state Flash drive and it really speeds things up. Allows better virtual memory too. I will never buy a spinny hard drive again.
Oooooh, Sierra client, thats nice...
Yeah, and hogging a little more RAM than I thought it would. It's a network piggy too. The EFI even more so.
That screenshot is about 1/3 of the current processes and I had about 2/3 of my workload going, no slowdowns or lags. I give more than half the credit to the solid state drive.
SSD's are great but even they can't help a slow computer. I have a netbook with an Intel Atom processor and even with a SSD it's dog slow, to the point it can't even stream netflix. Works with youtube but netflix plays for a second, then buffers, plays another second...
Looks like I'm cobbling together a PC just to be able to watch TV upstairs. :(
You can never have too much RAM... except in the case when you max out the ports with the highest amount. And I love SSDs, but I don't have any money to upgrade my computer right now. https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E2T0B-AM/dp/B010QD6W9I/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1497288722&sr=1-1&refinements=p_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A6797522011
I would buy the 4 TB model for only $1399.00 but the bastards want $7.23 shipping. Screw that! :rotf:
Seriously if the new Mac Pro is faster than current one I use, I can't wait to take it for a test drive.
Things should also speed up with High Sierra also.
I'm still in awe of this model.
. . . Sorry about the sideways pic.
I don't think there is a new Mac Pro but a new iMac Pro.
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Quote from: Joe on June 12, 2017, 07:49:53 PMI don't think there is a new Mac Pro but a new iMac Pro.
I was assuming that the new one will replace the old one.
Nope....just an iMac that is insanely expensive.
The Mac pro is getting a revamp, they just haven't released it yet.
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac/new-mac-pro-2018-latest-rumours-release-date-uk-price-features-specs-3536364/
Yeah I had read something about that. It will interesting to see the price for it seeing as how the iMac Pro starts at $5K.
Double it.
well, it IS the pro version, so only the pros can afford it, with all the millions they make from doing "pro" work.
:rotf:
Want a fully-loaded iMac Pro? Better sit down. At more than $17K, this is gonna hurt (http://www.zdnet.com/article/want-a-fully-loaded-imac-pro-better-sit-down-at-more-than-17k-this-is-gonna-hurt/?loc=newsletter_missed_content&ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=20703142171098067451473055926429)
"It Shoots through schools"
My mother kicked me in the balls once.
Once.
Who needs new iMacs!
Just get new iPad Pros and Affinity Photo for iPad.
Add Adobe apps like Comp and you eventually will be doing everything on your iPad.
What is the difference between icore5 and icore7?
getting a new imac at home
The i7 is a lot faster. Get it if you can afford it.
Quote from: Syphon on June 16, 2017, 11:11:32 AMWho needs new iMacs!
Just get new iPad Pros and Affinity Photo for iPad.
Add Adobe apps like Comp and you eventually will be doing everything on your iPad.
Currently running XMF & Black Magic Clients on our new Retina iMacs. But still doing files incoming/PitStopping on our 4+ year old ones.
The wider company's IT guy oversaw the purchase, but I notice we've gone from a 1TB HD to a 500 GB one. I may have acquiesced and smiled to this at some point. It'll suffice but :shrug: ... I thought things were supposed to get bigger. (no superfluous double entendres please...). It is Flash, after all.
But I do like the Retina display, and we have gone from 8 GB RAM to 16 GB. So not all bad.
Quote from: frailer on August 02, 2017, 07:49:40 PMCurrently running XMF & Black Magic Clients on our new Retina iMacs. But still doing files incoming/PitStopping on our 4+ year old ones.
The wider company's IT guy oversaw the purchase, but I notice we've gone from a 1TB HD to a 500 GB one. I may have acquiesced and smiled to this at some point. It'll suffice but :shrug: ... I thought things were supposed to get bigger. (no superfluous double entendres please...). It is Flash, after all.
But I do like the Retina display, and we have gone from 8 GB RAM to 16 GB. So not all bad.
Fusion drive? The SSD part makes it worthwhile if it is.
Quote from: Joe on August 02, 2017, 09:24:18 PMFusion drive? The SSD part makes it worthwhile if it is.
Yep, pretty sure... our IT guy is a pretty personable type; I think we're big enough to get a 'corporate' contact there.
AFAIK, they, off their own bat, suspended the order until the new drives came in. You may confirm this Joe. :undecided:
Thats actually a full SSD. Fusion drive would say..you guessed it Fusion Drive.
Fusion drives are part ssd and part traditional HD. Opperating system and heavily used assests run on the ssd part and older files and lesser used stuff sits on the HD. Gives you ssd like performance to a point without breaking the bank. Your IT guy stepped up to the plate 512gb ssd is better than 1 TB fusion in my book as the ssd part of the fusion is small less the 50 gbs
I think of the Fusion drive as a HDD with a big honking buffer. It keeps often used files in the buffer to keep seek times low and parks the less used files on the platter. Personally, SSDs are cheap enough and you don't need a gigantic drive as long as there is a second bay or external drive.
$1600 for a large phone that doesn't make calls. Does it have a IR blaster so you can at least control your TV? I have 2 tablets next to the couch and I don't think they've been charged in at least a year.
Yeah that is full blown SSD as Santa said. As long as you work your jobs from the server or an external shouldn't be a problem with 512 gb storage on the Mac. The Fusion is better than a traditional HD. My Mac starts up to the login screen in about 15 seconds. Mine at home with the traditional HD takes about a minute and a half.
Yeah the $1600 price priced me right out of it. I was actually looking for a replacement for my wife's Samsung tablet. It is getting outdated and was still on Lollipop. And she wouldn't have wanted the pencil and keyboard which are $99 each. And I wouldn't have sprung $59 for the case from Apple either when I can get one just as good on Amazon for about half the price. And I wouldn't have gotten 512 gb of storage but 64 gb. That takes it down to $899 + Apple Care. Instead I rooted her tablet and put Lineage OS 14.x on it (Android Nougat) so she will be using that that until further notice.
I may have to look up what options I have for my nexus 7 and my galaxy 10.2. I have a feeling it's slim to none. The galaxy is x86 and the nexus 7 is just old so I have a feeling development is dead on them. Hell, it's dead on both my phones. I need to upgrade soon.
Looks like CS6 is not compatible with Sierra
I may have to get CC for home :(
Anybody know the requirements for Student Pricing of CC?
It's 19.99 per month
I'm willing to take a class for it!
I can't see paying 50/month for home.
Quote from: Tracy on August 07, 2017, 10:13:22 AMAnybody know the requirements for Student Pricing of CC?
It's 19.99 per month
I'm willing to take a class for it!
I can't see paying 50/month for home.
Student eligibilityTo qualify for a student discount, you must be at least 13 years of age and enrolled in one of the following:
• University or college — accredited public or private university or college (including community, junior, or vocational college) that grants degrees requiring not less than the equivalent of two years of full-time study*
• Primary or secondary school — accredited public or private primary or secondary school providing full-time instruction*
• Homeschool — defined by state homeschooling regulations
How do I purchase?
The best way to purchase is directly from Adobe through our website or by calling 800-585-0774. You can also find Adobe Student and Teacher Editions through many campus bookstores and other online retailers. See the "Online stores" section.
At checkout, you'll need to provide the name of your school and indicate whether you are a student, educator, or administrator.
What is proof of eligibility?
Use a school-issued email address: If you provide a school-issued email address during purchase you are instantly verified. (A school email address may include .edu, .k12, or other email domains sponsored by educational institutions.) If you do not have a school-issued email address or your email address cannot be verified, additional proof of eligibility may be requested after purchase.
Students and educators at accredited schools
Proof of eligibility must be a document issued by the institution with your name, institution name, and current date. Types of proof of enrollment include:
• School ID card
• Report card
• Transcript
• Tuition bill or statement
Homeschooled students†
Proof of eligibility may include:
• Dated copy of a letter of intent to homeschool
• Current membership ID to a homeschool association (for example, the Home School Legal Defense Association)
• Dated proof of purchase of curriculum for the current academic school year
Contact Adobe at 800-585-0774 if you are unclear about whether you qualify.
* Accredited schools are those that are approved by an association recognized by the U.S. Department of Education/State Board of Educationor the Canadian/Provincial Ministries of Education and that teach students as their primary focus. In the U.S., such associations include:Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools, North Central Association of Colleges and Schools, Western Association of Schools and Colleges, Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, New England Association of Schools and Colleges, Northwest Association of Accredited Schools.
† Documents dated within the last six months are considered current.
Thanks Joe!
sheesh 2 years.
I got my original CS as a student, I only went to school for 1 year tho.
See my last PM and do that. :wink: