New Adobe Acrobat and Document Cloud available in the next 30 days
http://landing.adobe.com/en/na/products/document-cloud/announce.html?scid=social41898766
Quote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:22:14 PMNew Adobe Acrobat and Document Cloud available in the next 30 days
http://landing.adobe.com/en/na/products/document-cloud/announce.html?scid=social41898766
And you already have Pitstop compatible with it right since I'm sure Adobe supplies Enfocus with advanced copies...right??? :rotf:
:popcorn:
At least there is this info...
QuoteAcrobat already is part of Creative Cloud, employed by a subset of creative users for tasks like mock-ups, markup and response, pre-press support and more. All Creative Cloud subscribers automatically become Document Cloud subscribers, too.
Quote from: Joe on March 17, 2015, 03:27:07 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:22:14 PMNew Adobe Acrobat and Document Cloud available in the next 30 days
http://landing.adobe.com/en/na/products/document-cloud/announce.html?scid=social41898766
And you already have Pitstop compatible with it right since I'm sure Adobe supplies Enfocus with advanced copies...right??? :rotf:
Actually yes. 12.3 onwards is ok. Not fully optimised for the new interface but it works ok. Older versions on Mac are a different story as there are a lot of changes under the hood.
Quote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:39:54 PMActually yes. 12.3 onwards is ok. Not fully optimised for the new interface but it works ok.
:shoots_self:
It would be nice if the new interface is the old v9 interface and the joke that was X/XI was forever benished. Yeah I know...
Quote from: swampymarsh on March 17, 2015, 04:12:06 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:39:54 PMActually yes. 12.3 onwards is ok. Not fully optimised for the new interface but it works ok.
:shoots_self:
It would be nice if the new interface is the old v9 interface and the joke that was X/XI was forever benished. Yeah I know...
Watch the video on the link
Quote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 04:16:58 PMWatch the video on the link
I did, and al l I saw were happy people making happy PDFs on their happy tablets. No anger, no swearing so by inference - no prepress. It's glorious!!! They've made everything Betterer™ for us, chaps!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
Quote from: Slappy on March 17, 2015, 04:22:11 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 04:16:58 PMWatch the video on the link
I did, and al l I saw were happy people making happy PDFs on their happy tablets. No anger, no swearing so by inference - no prepress. It's glorious!!! They've made everything Betterer™ for us, chaps!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
Quote from: Slappy on March 17, 2015, 04:22:11 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 04:16:58 PMWatch the video on the link
I did, and al l I saw were happy people making happy PDFs on their happy tablets. No anger, no swearing so by inference - no prepress. It's glorious!!! They've made everything Betterer™ for us, chaps!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
Glorious isn't it!
That might be the most useless 'Learn More' video ever made.
Anything with "Cloud" in the title just gets a sneer from me.
But this video shows pretty much who Adobe wants to become the main user group of Acrobat: Secretaries, Office people, Sales staff. Printing companies will be neglected. But since Adobe knows that there's a lack of alternatives out there, they can afford to do so. Maybe one day a competitor product shows up and Adobe goes the same way like Quark before...
Quote from: Made in Taiwan on March 18, 2015, 12:39:04 AMBut this video shows pretty much who Adobe wants to become the main user group of Acrobat: Secretaries, Office people, Sales staff. Printing companies will be neglected. But since Adobe knows that there's a lack of alternatives out there, they can afford to do so. Maybe one day a competitor product shows up and Adobe goes the same way like Quark before...
That's already their target market and has been for many years. If you look at the top 5 markets for Acrobat print does not appear.
It's medical, corporate, insurance etc. You can find some nice threads on Printplanet where they openly say that.
I've read those threads already. I also don't want to convert this thread here into the ten-millionth thread about how much Adobe sucks. They're flying too high, that's for sure. But so far there is nearly no chance for them to fall down. If not Adobe, what else could we use? I mean, there might be alternatives out there but who can afford them?
Is there any chance for a Pitstop standalone solution that could substitute Acrobat in the future, maybe?
not this year
but never say never
:goodpost: I need to be able to like that 500x more. :goodpost:
Adobe threw us to the side long ago. Honestly, I can understand. We are a dying breed in a dying industry that adapts and overcomes.
I need to open a liquor store near a printshop. That's my retirement plan.
Quote from: Made in Taiwan on March 18, 2015, 05:53:39 AMIs there any chance for a Pitstop standalone solution that could substitute Acrobat in the future, maybe?
Quote from: abc on March 18, 2015, 07:09:15 AMnot this year
but never say never
Codename: PitStop
Extreme Phoenix? :popcorn:
While we are dreaming can we have it cost about the same as Pitstop...or lower if you insist? ;D
i dunno, :popcorn: maybe a bit :popcorn: off topic, but gotta tell ya i am hating acrobat Xi or whatevers interface, it crashes alot too, pitstop works ok, but every time acrobat crashes, i lose my toolbar presets and stuff.... :drunk3: when i shift click to select multiple items with the pitstop selection tool, some green sticky note shit thing comes up UNLESS i close the separations preview box, wtf is that about?
Quote from: pspdfppdfx on March 19, 2015, 04:08:00 PMi dunno, :popcorn: maybe a bit :popcorn: off topic, but gotta tell ya i am hating acrobat Xi or whatevers interface, it crashes alot too, pitstop works ok, but every time acrobat crashes, i lose my toolbar presets and stuff.... :drunk3: when i shift click to select multiple items with the pitstop selection tool, some green sticky note shit thing comes up UNLESS i close the separations preview box, wtf is that about?
Set your toolbars up the way you want. Quit Acrobat. That will save them. After that crashing shouldn't lose them.
The green sticky note...ADOBE CAN KISS MY ARSE (as the British say)!!!!!!!!11
I've complained long and loud about this and their response? SILENCE....it's like arguing with my wife!
Quote from: Joe on March 19, 2015, 05:28:22 PMQuote from: pspdfppdfx on March 19, 2015, 04:08:00 PMi dunno, :popcorn: maybe a bit :popcorn: off topic, but gotta tell ya i am hating acrobat Xi or whatevers interface, it crashes alot too, pitstop works ok, but every time acrobat crashes, i lose my toolbar presets and stuff.... :drunk3: when i shift click to select multiple items with the pitstop selection tool, some green sticky note shit thing comes up UNLESS i close the separations preview box, wtf is that about?
Set your toolbars up the way you want. Quit Acrobat. That will save them. After that crashing shouldn't lose them.
The green sticky note...ADOBE CAN KISS MY ARSE (as the British say)!!!!!!!!11
I've complained long and loud about this and their response? SILENCE....it's like arguing with my wife!
yeah, well thats a royal pitass when you have been doing the same thing for years then this green sticky note shit thing appears....
I agree 100% and feel your pain.
Adobe on the other hand...
:strangle:
If I even glance at the separation preview after opening a second PDF it will crash. Click, no response, beach ball, and then it crashes.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
New Adobe Acrobat DC is now available via CC. Completely new interface. It is much faster then the previous version. I have both installed, a glitch via the install for DC did not delete Acrobat Pro 11. Others report that it does delete the previous version in a normal instal.
Actually it is available through CC:
[attachimg=1 width=400]
And if I do that update it does replace Acrobat XI. I did that at home but can't at work because the Kodak plug-ins are still 32-bit and there are no replacements for those at this time.
Quote from: Farabomb on March 20, 2015, 07:31:42 AMIf I even glance at the separation preview after opening a second PDF it will crash. Click, no response, beach ball, and then it crashes.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
The secret is once you open output preview...NEVER close it. I thought they had it fixed for awhile but it is back for me also. Not as bad as it once was but it will still crash acrobat in just the right circumstance...like if you close Output Preview and open it again without restarting Acrobat.
Quote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:39:54 PMQuote from: Joe on March 17, 2015, 03:27:07 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:22:14 PMNew Adobe Acrobat and Document Cloud available in the next 30 days
http://landing.adobe.com/en/na/products/document-cloud/announce.html?scid=social41898766
And you already have Pitstop compatible with it right since I'm sure Adobe supplies Enfocus with advanced copies...right??? :rotf:
Actually yes. 12.3 onwards is ok. Not fully optimised for the new interface but it works ok. Older versions on Mac are a different story as there are a lot of changes under the hood.
Oh dear... ask not for whom the bell tolls... :tonofbricks: Reset in Comic Sans for effect, is all.
... actually, does that mean older versions of OSX, or older PitStops, or both?
We're running Acrobat XI/Cloud but are on 10.6.8.
Quote from: frailer on April 08, 2015, 08:33:22 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:39:54 PMQuote from: Joe on March 17, 2015, 03:27:07 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:22:14 PMNew Adobe Acrobat and Document Cloud available in the next 30 days
http://landing.adobe.com/en/na/products/document-cloud/announce.html?scid=social41898766
And you already have Pitstop compatible with it right since I'm sure Adobe supplies Enfocus with advanced copies...right??? :rotf:
Actually yes. 12.3 onwards is ok. Not fully optimised for the new interface but it works ok. Older versions on Mac are a different story as there are a lot of changes under the hood.
Oh dear... ask not for whom the bell tolls... :tonofbricks: Reset in Comic Sans for effect, is all.
... actually, does that mean older versions of OSX, or older PitStops, or both?
We're running Acrobat XI/Cloud but are on 10.6.8.
The CC 2014 versions of the Creative Cloud Apps already require OS X 10.7.x, 10.8.x, 10.9.x, or 10.10.x...
Any new versions of any Creative Cloud applications after CC 2014 (which for now is Acrobat DC and the upcoming CC 2015 versions of Illy, Indy, and Photoshop) require either OS 10.9.x or 10.10.x
You can continue to run Acrobat XI on OS X 10.6.8 and Pitstop 13 will work in it. But you will NOT be able to upgrade to Acrobat DC or CC 2015 or later unless you upgrade to OS X 10.9 or OS X10.10 and you can't even upgrade to CC 2014 if you are running OS X 10.6.8.
Clear as mud?
Quote from: frailer on April 08, 2015, 08:33:22 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:39:54 PMQuote from: Joe on March 17, 2015, 03:27:07 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:22:14 PMNew Adobe Acrobat and Document Cloud available in the next 30 days
http://landing.adobe.com/en/na/products/document-cloud/announce.html?scid=social41898766
And you already have Pitstop compatible with it right since I'm sure Adobe supplies Enfocus with advanced copies...right??? :rotf:
Actually yes. 12.3 onwards is ok. Not fully optimised for the new interface but it works ok. Older versions on Mac are a different story as there are a lot of changes under the hood.
Oh dear... ask not for whom the bell tolls... :tonofbricks: Reset in Comic Sans for effect, is all.
... actually, does that mean older versions of OSX, or older PitStops, or both?
We're running Acrobat XI/Cloud but are on 10.6.8.
From the Enfocus point of view on Macintosh the big change is 64-bit, Acrobat DC only runs in 64-bit so any PitStop plugin older than version 12 update 3 is not going to work as they are 32-bit.
We tried to make PitStop 12 update 3 as ready as we could (even though it was released 6 months ago).
I couldn't be specific earlier as I was under an NDA.
Quote from: Joe on April 08, 2015, 02:48:03 PMActually it is available through CC:
[attachimg=1 width=400]
And if I do that update it does replace Acrobat XI. I did that at home but can't at work because the Kodak plug-ins are still 32-bit and there are no replacements for those at this time.
I miss typed, it should have read "now available" not "not available".
Quote from: abc on April 09, 2015, 01:32:07 AMQuote from: frailer on April 08, 2015, 08:33:22 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:39:54 PMQuote from: Joe on March 17, 2015, 03:27:07 PMQuote from: abc on March 17, 2015, 03:22:14 PMNew Adobe Acrobat and Document Cloud available in the next 30 days
http://landing.adobe.com/en/na/products/document-cloud/announce.html?scid=social41898766
And you already have Pitstop compatible with it right since I'm sure Adobe supplies Enfocus with advanced copies...right??? :rotf:
Actually yes. 12.3 onwards is ok. Not fully optimised for the new interface but it works ok. Older versions on Mac are a different story as there are a lot of changes under the hood.
Oh dear... ask not for whom the bell tolls... :tonofbricks: Reset in Comic Sans for effect, is all.
... actually, does that mean older versions of OSX, or older PitStops, or both?
We're running Acrobat XI/Cloud but are on 10.6.8.
From the Enfocus point of view on Macintosh the big change is 64-bit, Acrobat DC only runs in 64-bit so any PitStop plugin older than version 12 update 3 is not going to work as they are 32-bit.
We tried to make PitStop 12 update 3 as ready as we could (even though it was released 6 months ago).
I couldn't be specific earlier as I was under an NDA.
So let me try and get this straight.... if we upgrade to Acrobat DC from XI then we lose XI? Seems very risky if we have problems with DC and pitstop. Should we wait for version 13? Can you go back to XI after upgrading to DC? I work in a world where pitstop is used many times every day, we can't afford to lose it.
Quote from: Joe on April 08, 2015, 02:51:42 PMQuote from: Farabomb on March 20, 2015, 07:31:42 AMIf I even glance at the separation preview after opening a second PDF it will crash. Click, no response, beach ball, and then it crashes.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
The secret is once you open output preview...NEVER close it. I thought they had it fixed for awhile but it is back for me also. Not as bad as it once was but it will still crash acrobat in just the right circumstance...like if you close Output Preview and open it again without restarting Acrobat.
I will give that a shot. One issue I have is if I don't cycle it, it does not show the correct spot colors.
Still not expecting miracles.
Oh, found the answer in the other post about pitstop and DC compatibility. As much as I find Acrobat XI unstable, I'm not overwriting it. Better to deal with the devil you know as they say.
In Acrobat XI, when using the edit object tool (for correcting color in Photoshop) Acrobat crashes on average, about every 10 edits. Not sure if this problem is specific to us or if it is a known issue. Never had this problem before XI.
Quote from: Farabomb on April 09, 2015, 07:53:12 AMQuote from: Joe on April 08, 2015, 02:51:42 PMQuote from: Farabomb on March 20, 2015, 07:31:42 AMIf I even glance at the separation preview after opening a second PDF it will crash. Click, no response, beach ball, and then it crashes.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
The secret is once you open output preview...NEVER close it. I thought they had it fixed for awhile but it is back for me also. Not as bad as it once was but it will still crash acrobat in just the right circumstance...like if you close Output Preview and open it again without restarting Acrobat.
I will give that a shot. One issue I have is if I don't cycle it, it does not show the correct spot colors.
Still not expecting miracles.
I rarely get the separations not updating unless I close Output Preview and then re-open it later. When they don't update correctly and you turn off the separation is where you are guaranteed to get a crash.
Quote from: pspdfppdfx on April 09, 2015, 08:08:33 AMOh, found the answer in the other post about pitstop and DC compatibility. As much as I find Acrobat XI unstable, I'm not overwriting it. Better to deal with the devil you know as they say.
In Acrobat XI, when using the edit object tool (for correcting color in Photoshop) Acrobat crashes on average, about every 10 edits. Not sure if this problem is specific to us or if it is a known issue. Never had this problem before XI.
I open quite a few photos in Photoshop that way and I can't remember the last time I got a crash. What version of Photoshop do you have?
CC 2014.
I would try deleting the Acrobat preferences. Be warned though you will have setup your toolbars again though.
When does it crash? When trying to open the PDF in Photoshop or when Photoshop is trying to save it back?
When saving it back, i can see that it won't update then BANG, it crashes.
:drunk3: