Quark: Last call for upgrading older versions...

[gnubler]

rebel against the cloud

Sounds like my new mantra. Or another band name that will never formulate.

[DigiCorn]

And there are still people running Quark hard as that is to believe. Some of them actually claim to like it.

They're left-handed... that means they are the devil's children, and/or aliens. Anyone else see the original V back in the '80s?

Loved that show. Good ol Marc Singer.

They tried to bring it back last year but it sucked.

Nobody fucks with the Beastmaster... the Beastmaster does the fucking.

[Slappy]

This is hilarious. So instead of trying to keep current Quark users by allowing older version to update, they decide it's better to alienate them with some arbitrary "cut-off" instead? Just when long-time Adobe customers are all but willing to jump back into the Pit of Despair™ that is The Big Q also? Morons.

[Joe]

They probably see this as an opportunity to push people off of the fence onto their side of the pasture. Doubtful if it will work though. We've made the decision to upgrade to neither Quark or Creative Cloud. Quark forever and Creative Cloud for at least a year. Maybe longer if we aren't having problems with CS6 by then. Very possibly we may just keep updated with Acrobat/Pitstop since you can still actually buy non-cloud versions of Acrobat.

[pspdfppdfxhd]

 i just keep finding great new ways to make money using indesign, like variable data step and repeat for mailing labels and all kinds of other shit too. hard to expect everything for free, although nowadays, thats the norn. they think we prepressers are a commodity too, then one key person leaves, nothing gets done, and all you will hear is "whaah happened?" when the work doesnt get done. the prepresser that left probably quit to get a union job as a janitor to make enough money to pay the bills. 

[pspdfppdfxhd]

oh, a bit off  topic, but imo, Quark still sucks 

[Possum]

i just keep finding great new ways to make money using indesign, like variable data step and repeat for mailing labels and all kinds of other shit too. hard to expect everything for free, although nowadays, thats the norn. they think we prepressers are a commodity too, then one key person leaves, nothing gets done, and all you will hear is "whaah happened?" when the work doesnt get done. the prepresser that left probably quit to get a union job as a janitor to make enough money to pay the bills. 

They never appreciate you or know how much work you did until you're gone.

[Farabomb]

I know that all too well.

Too bad it seems he has forgot already.

[Possum]

You're always replaceable until the boss actually tries to do it.

[t-pat]

everyone's replaceable. I know this from experience. Worst situation is when they don't replace the person, just push their work onto someone else. Like we do here. Or, just pretend like nobody needs to do that job anymore.

Shop maintenance guy/paper gofer dude had to leave because he has ALS, now we sit here in the dark because the light bulbs all burned out. Wish I knew where the ladder and light bulbs are....

[pspdfppdfxhd]

yeah, dont get me wrong.... i know everyone is not irreplaceable, but many of us are undercompensated and taken for granted. 

[Farabomb]

 

For MF'n truth. Even with me failing upwards deep in the back of the boss's mind the wheels are turning about how he needs to get $3 more an hour out of me.

[gnubler]

oh, a bit off  topic, but imo, Quark still sucks 

y es it does

[DigiCorn]

yeah, dont get me wrong.... i know everyone is not irreplaceable, but many of us are undercompensated and taken for granted. 

So....

Is B4Print a support group, or a place to come bitch about our jobs and talk about beer? (well, basically, that makes B4Print sound like a bar)

Hmmm.... I'm sure the first B4Print bar would be in Illinois, but who wants to franchise the second one?

[David]

it's already at my house...

patio at 5, be there