Preps 7: vignettes not imposing properly

[Tracy]

Outline the font?

I know nothing tho :laugh:

[Joe]

Outline the font?

I know nothing tho :laugh:

Actually that is a good idea to try.

[DPSprint]

Outline the font?

I know nothing tho :laugh:

Actually that is a good idea to try.

yeap I could try that except its a 76 pages annual report book, the ps/distill the file works ok so will stick to that I think... seems to be the easiest fix.

LOL and you dont know nothing Tracy! You know lots ;-)

[DPSprint]

just curious...  is the vignette in question rotated perhaps?

I know preps has had issues in the past (distant past, haven't used it in a year) with rotated items not "holding".

I will have a look...
actually yes the text has -33 degrees on it, although some of the boxes have 180 degrees but they dont seem to be affected.
I could make some text without rotated fill and see what that does...

[Joe]

Outline the font?

I know nothing tho :laugh:

Actually that is a good idea to try.

yeap I could try that except its a 76 pages annual report book, the ps/distill the file works ok so will stick to that I think... seems to be the easiest fix.

LOL and you dont know nothing Tracy! You know lots ;-)

Actually with a Global Change with Pitstop it would be a one click fix to outline the text in the whole document. And converting to postscript and distilling should be used as a next-to-last option right before rasterizing the PDF.

[DPSprint]

yeah rasterising not really in the picture (LOL get it?) for me, although i have done it once for a file going to the plate RIP
I might test the outlining fonts, when I get time...

*adds to list of things to try

and I just worked out that the first file i had issue with was a year ago, with the last annual report for this company from this designer LOL

[Joe]

AHHHHAAAAAA...it is becoming more clear. Faulty designer.

[DPSprint]

lol... i wish, but the more recent file was from a different designer.

[Joe]

Oh I thought you said it was from the same designer.

[DPSprint]

Both these annual reports were from the same designer, but the last file was unrelated, but had the same issue.

So I was curious, and had the time... and the converting to paths worked as well. ;-)

So which would be a better path to take... PS/distilling the file or just converting to paths?

On another side note, it doesnt do it on all text with gradient fills, just some of them.

[Joe]

PS/Distilling is never a good option. Like I said next to last option.

I would be interested to know if the problem fonts are freeware fonts. We have a lot of issues with those in Prinergy.

[DPSprint]

Avenir Black truetype, pretty common and reliable older font I would have thought?

Funny how so many problems come down to a font issue of some description, always has been and I guess it always will be.

I looked through all the text with gradients on this latest file (last years one some did and some didnt, and looking again it used Avenir black T1, so technically a different font but same issue) even the ones with no rotation have the same problem... and yet when manually imposed in indesign the gradient is fine, so its a font-gradient-preps problem; preps either doesnt understand the gradient or is not getting the info correctly from the file? Ultimately its preps creating the issue I guess.

At least i have a workaround (will go with the paths to outlines from now on, thanks Tracey for suggesting)... as long as I see the problem before print!
Proofs are invaluable really.

[Joe]

Well that isn't a freeware font so that shoots that thought in the ass.

Fonts are just plain evil.

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[Farabomb]

If it makes you feel any better all sorts of HelveticaNeue fonts are ruining my day today.

[Tracy]

A really good designer could design with just one font :laugh: 

get rid of the rest