I have a file today, could not get it to out put on Copier
28pg calendar, preflight just showed rgb, and spot colors-fixed, so no problems showing up really.
I tried to X1a the file, took forever and crashed
I'm currently rasterizing the whole thing, I can't figure anything out.

any other things I could try?

What happened when you tried to output it straight to the copier? Were you printing to it or using a hotfolder to send the file?

It sent to the copier ok, took forever
but then when I went to print the proof it went red which means problems.
that's why I was trying to X1A it but I couldn't even do that.

But did you "print" to the copier or "copy" the file to a hotfolder on the copier? It makes a difference. Sometimes when one fails the other might work.

Also do you have the source files where you can export an X1A directly from InDesign?

Also how did you try to convert it to X1A. Acrobat? Pitstop? Many times Pitstop does a better job than Acrobat.

I don't have a hot folder so I printed to the copier
I tried to make a X1A from indy
never have made an X1A with pitstop, wasn't sure about it.
do you X1A from pitstop using preflight profile?

Quote from: Tracy on December 30, 2015, 04:38:14 PMdo you X1A from pitstop using preflight profile?

Yes.

I 600 dpi'd the file, looks good
but I'm going to try and figure out how to fix it, just for me.
Thanks Joe, learned sumthin

Quote from: Tracy on December 30, 2015, 03:27:24 PMany other things I could try?

Tracy, are you rasterizing in Photoshop or PitStop Pro?

There are many things that you can try... However you will need to try one thing at a time to try to pinpoint what the issue is and keep in mind that the next problem PDF may not have the same issue!

If you have workflow software like Prinergy, try running it through that as there is usually a "normalization" process in the refine setup that may help.


In Acrobat Reader or Pro:

Print/Advanced Button/Print As Image (check this box and select a resolution if offered) This option is "sticky" so don't forget to do a print with this button turned off, otherwise all of your future prints will be rasterized from Acrobat which is not a good default.


In Acrobat Pro:

* File/Save As – This rewrites the PDF and can optimise the file to be a smaller size (just like with PageMaker or InDesign)

* File/Save As/Optimized PDF – There are many settings and options, be careful with what you chose and always save a duplicate file so as not to overwrite the original

* File/Save As/Optimized PDF/Audit Space Usage – Informs you of the % of file size used for fonts, images etc.

* Tools/Print Production/Preflight/Single Fixups/Document/Repair Damaged Document

* As Joe said, try using Acrobat Pro and or PitStop Pro to save the current PDF as a copy in PDF/X-4 or 1a format


I hesitate to mention the following as it is not best practice and you may have missing elements or incorrect output, however:

http://prepression.blogspot.com.au/2008/07/apple-preview-transparent-pdf-printing.html


Regenerating the PDF

Placing the PDF in InDesign and exporting out a new PDF is the "safest" option, however as it is safe it may not "fix" a problem PDF. In a pinch one may need to "refry" the PDF by creating PostScript from the PDF and Distilling back to a PDF (losing transparency, layers, colour management etc).

P.S. Are you Mac or Windows based Tracy? How are you placing and positioning the multi page PDF into InDesign, manually or via a script?

Sometimes all you need to do is to "save as" an optimized PDF to thin out the bloated PDF. Dowbsampling the images to something reasonable is always a good start.

I rasterized in photoshop 600dpi, works pretty good in a pinch.
I am going to try all the tips today, I know about optimize but rarely use it.
Will try today as I don't have a ton of work. 
I will post what I find, may have questions too about optimize.

Hard to create a X1 and X4 pdf out of indy with this file (takes forever or  not at all)
so acro or pitstop is going to be the solution prolly.

If it takes that long in Indy to make the PDF it sounds like some of the source images may be huge and then greatly reduced in Indy. That can make for some unnecessarily huge files because they still have to be processed at that size. Best to scale them at least close to the output size in Photoshop and then place them in Indy.

going thru the links and finding this to be true!!
I don't think they will let me go thru this doc to fix it
there are a lot of images.
Got the X1a to output, 1GB for a 28 pg
trying to optimize currently, do you optimize images to 300 for images above 300 in pitstop?

swampy
not seeing the Single Fixups in the preflight
curious why you asked about placing multipage with script (I usually will use the script)
I was using the natives tho

I optimize at output in Indy to change anything above 450 to 300 and use ZIP compression. I also output using the standard X4A preset only changing the image compression to ZIP. But for a copier X4A may not work for you because of transparency...as copiers (EFI RIP) suck at transparency.

yeah, x4 no work, couldn't even get it to the copier.
I'm starting to think for this file the only option was the 600ppi photoshop.
optimize crashed the x1a, going to try again tho.

 :laugh: They just sent a new file
here we go!