I went looking here and found a few things but it's not playing nice. I'm probably doing something wrong.
I use RealVNC to connect to my NT box that controls the platemaker. Now It seems I am the lord of the new computerized timeclock fingerprint reader thingy. It needs to be hooked to a computer but it sure doesn't need a keyboard and mouse. I've read about the VPN service built in to OSX but I can't get it to connect to either the NT box or the timeclock box.
I'm going to keep trying but if anyone has any hints it would be much appreciated.
I use Microsoft Remote Desktop for Mac to remotely control a Windows PC from the Mac. There is nothing better and it's free. The built in Mac VNC only does Mac to Mac I think.
I use Jump Desktop. It's on the iPhone and iPad... can control my entire prepress kingdom from the couch at home.
I'm trying RDC for mac but it keeps complaining about network issues and not allowing me to connect.
Quote from: Farabomb on January 24, 2012, 11:10:24 AMI'm trying RDC for mac but it keeps complaining about network issues and not allowing me to connect.
Are you on the same network or are you trying to connect from outside of the network?
Same network, same DNS.
Trying to connect to the NT box gives the same results but I don't think NT has remote desktop.
What version of NT? Windows 2000 and up has remote services but you have to enable Terminal Services for MS RDC to work.
NT 4 WS iirc. That one isn't all that important I was just trying it.
The one I need to connect to is XP pro sp3. Is there anything I need to enable? I've already told the firewall to accept remote desktop connections.
Helps when I'm not doing 100 things at once. Got it connected to the XP box now.
Is it possible to get it to work on NT?
Quote from: Farabomb on January 24, 2012, 11:45:27 AMHelps when I'm not doing 100 things at once. Got it connected to the XP box now.
Is it possible to get it to work on NT?
I dunno for sure. Way back when I remotely connected to an NT 4 WS box I used VNC. If it has terminal services and you enable it, MS RDC might work but NT 4 is the equivalent of Windows 95 so I'd day it is a long shot.
Looks like there is a remote desktop for NT but I'll only try it if I get bored. I have VNC running now and that works just fine.
I wouldn't mind being able to check on all my boxes from the Mac but it's not important.
I'm not sure what you're trying to do, I set up our "computerized timeclock fingerprint reader thingy" and it just runs cat 5 to the switch, the software can be loaded on any pc that also runs cat 5 to the same switch.
Quote from: Joe on January 24, 2012, 11:13:09 AMQuote from: Farabomb on January 24, 2012, 11:10:24 AMI'm trying RDC for mac but it keeps complaining about network issues and not allowing me to connect.
Are you on the same network or are you trying to connect from outside of the network?
RDC uses port 3389 tcp, path must be open through all firewalls whether internal or external, if external, must port map public ip to private ip. And as mentioned, must be NT 4 Terminal Services edition, in order to enable it on NT.
Quote from: Joe on January 24, 2012, 09:22:19 AMI use Microsoft Remote Desktop for Mac to remotely control a Windows PC from the Mac. There is nothing better and it's free. The built in Mac VNC only does Mac to Mac I think.
RDC does rock the speed with it's compression and I like it, but for convenience in a multi platform environment, I like VNC. And no Joe, it does them all, I use built in OS X Screen Sharing app to connect to all platforms, all servers (Real, Tight, Vine, etc..).
Tip: in Safari, type in url of your target's ip address like this but don't go there yet -> vnc://ta.rg.et.ip
Now drag this url to your desktop, you now have a vnc shortcut that will launch screen sharing and go to that machine, if you elect to save password it will save it in your os x keychain. I have a folder that contains folders with shortcuts to every machine of every company and department in our group so that I can drill down to any machine in seconds. Here's a screenshot from my powerbook that I use for work (not a typo, yes I said powerbook).
IMPORTANT: If you use Screen Sharing App, it took me hours and hours to find this...
[Ctrl] [Alt] [Del] = [Shift] [Control] [Alt] [Command] big [Del] on a Mac full size keyboard, the little [Del] key won't work!
(http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu136/allanster/b4print/VNCtip.png)
Quote from: Earendil on January 24, 2012, 10:47:44 AMI use Jump Desktop. It's on the iPhone and iPad... can control my entire prepress kingdom from the couch at home.
Haven't used that so I can't comment on it, I can say I use iTeleport (http://www.iteleportmobile.com/) which is one of the oldest and original clients to control my entire group of companies kingdom from the crapper and it absolutely rocks.
Quote from: Nick Burns on January 24, 2012, 01:12:31 PMQuote from: Joe on January 24, 2012, 09:22:19 AMI use Microsoft Remote Desktop for Mac to remotely control a Windows PC from the Mac. There is nothing better and it's free. The built in Mac VNC only does Mac to Mac I think.
RDC does rock the speed with it's compression and I like it, but for convenience in a multi platform environment, I like VNC. And no Joe, it does them all, I use built in OS X Screen Sharing app to connect to all platforms, all servers (Real, Tight, Vine, etc..).
Yes, if you have a VNC server installed on a Windows PC you can connect to them. For just Mac to Mac with no 3rd party server installed it (built in VNC) works great. I was more talking just the NT with terminal services running and I don't think the built in OS X VNC can connect to it.
Well so far my combo of RDC and VPN looks like it will do what I need. I can remote in with logmein and be able to hit all the boxes I need from home.
I'm pretty sure I tried RDC at first when I needed to connect to the NT box. Either I didn't get it to work or it didn't allow me to get into it from a cold boot. That's how I ended up with realVNC on it.
The timeclock thingy is a lathem biometric print reader. I have seen the ones you talk about nick but this one needs a computer with a USB port in order to work. Ebay special and is no longer supported by the manufacturer but it should do what we need. Personally I see it being more of a problem than a normal timeclock. Seeing as I have had it running for less than a day and it had issue reading 2 employee's prints and totally shit the bed after I installed reader on that box. Hopefully it will sort itself. I don't think the added complexity of a computer and a fingerprint reader beats a old fashioned time clock but WTF do I know. The boss loves having neat technology but doesn't know how it works or how to use it. :banghead:
Quote from: Farabomb on January 24, 2012, 02:15:38 PMWell so far my combo of RDC and VPN looks like it will do what I need. I can remote in with logmein and be able to hit all the boxes I need from home.
I'm pretty sure I tried RDC at first when I needed to connect to the NT box. Either I didn't get it to work or it didn't allow me to get into it from a cold boot. That's how I ended up with realVNC on it.
The timeclock thingy is a lathem biometric print reader. I have seen the ones you talk about nick but this one needs a computer with a USB port in order to work. Ebay special and is no longer supported by the manufacturer but it should do what we need. Personally I see it being more of a problem than a normal timeclock. Seeing as I have had it running for less than a day and it had issue reading 2 employee's prints and totally shit the bed after I installed reader on that box. Hopefully it will sort itself. I don't think the added complexity of a computer and a fingerprint reader beats a old fashioned time clock but WTF do I know. The boss loves having neat technology but doesn't know how it works or how to use it. :banghead:
We tried one of those and eventually dumped it. It kept punching the wrong employees in and out (when it would read anything at all). What a mess that was. :laugh:
Right now we use a Lathem facial recognition time clock that just plugs into the network via ethernet cable. The server software is loaded on a Windows 2003 server and then we can run the client on up to 6 Windows computers (XP, Vista, WIN 7). Works much better than the fingerprint one.
Yea, I'm pretty sure this thing is going to give me headaches but "it was cheap" so that means I will have another thing to babysit. I don't have time to get what I need done now but thus is life.
One pressman's thumb is shredded with cuts, you think that's not going to play havoc with the reader? I had him scan his pinky just so I didn't have to deal with it every day.
We use http://www.sundialtime.com/ (http://www.sundialtime.com/) for $595. Support is stellar, the actual developer remotes in when there's an issue or we need assistance and he's always been prompt. This thing has never punched in the wrong employee, you register the print at three angles and it works well.
Quote from: Joe on January 24, 2012, 01:24:54 PMQuote from: Nick Burns on January 24, 2012, 01:12:31 PMQuote from: Joe on January 24, 2012, 09:22:19 AMI use Microsoft Remote Desktop for Mac to remotely control a Windows PC from the Mac. There is nothing better and it's free. The built in Mac VNC only does Mac to Mac I think.
RDC does rock the speed with it's compression and I like it, but for convenience in a multi platform environment, I like VNC. And no Joe, it does them all, I use built in OS X Screen Sharing app to connect to all platforms, all servers (Real, Tight, Vine, etc..).
Yes, if you have a VNC server installed on a Windows PC you can connect to them. For just Mac to Mac with no 3rd party server installed it (built in VNC) works great. I was more talking just the NT with terminal services running and I don't think the built in OS X VNC can connect to it.
My misunderstanding Joe, no it won't do that.
I forgot to respond earlier on the OS X vpn built in thing, OS X client is actually the same as OS X server, it has the guts and services, they just don't give you the nifty GUI to control them. But I have gone down this path of trying to hack this and it is a freaking nightmare. I ended up finding a kid in the UK (http://macserve.org.uk/projects/ivpn/) (14 at the time) that had this gritty craft already polished up into a nice GUI and purchased his for 15 pounds.
It works awesome. He abandoned support shortly after I purchased (he was snatched up for a high paying job) but has since returned to supporting it. He was very apologetic to me at the time that he would be too busy to help me in the future and offered me a full refund which I declined. It is a sheer joy when I am at home being actually connected to work network.
Incidentally, LogMeIn was also originally the work of a 14 year old kid and was formerly Hamachi, which LogMeIn now also owns. I figured out back when Symantec was using it to give me remote assistance, that if they thought it was the most secure, it would be my choice as well in these types of products. Symantec liked it well enough to later on buy them out.
If you're in a pinch to help someone remotely on a PC, this one (http://www.ammyy.com/en/) is absolutely awesome, it's a free 1 700Kb .exe file (no install) that you can email them and it will run while still in the email attachment! If they're smart enough to get their email and click an attachment, you're good to go. The speed on this one is insanity too, I think it rivals even RDC. The one caveat is it's PC only so I have to run it from boot camp or parallels, I haven't tried wine yet (on the to do list).
Quote from: Farabomb on January 24, 2012, 02:15:38 PMWell so far my combo of RDC and VPN looks like it will do what I need. I can remote in with logmein and be able to hit all the boxes I need from home.
I'm confused here, are you referring to your logmein as your vpn? If not, and you have vpn, then you don't need to bother with logmein, your vnc will be secure traversing your vpn.
I like and use logmein in certain situations, but it's way more cumbersome than vnc and unnecessary if you have a vpn.
Sorry for being confusing. I use a combo of RDC and VNC, not a VPN internally when I'm sitting at my desk in order to control all the other boxes. When I'm at home I have logmein on 2 boxes and it allows me to do whatever I need to do from home.
Stupid spelling, I never was good at it.
Logmein sucks on OS X Lion. It's like dialup with a lot of line noise.
It's not much better on snow leper and my crap DSL line I have at home. Hope Verizon gets it's 4G service up by me soon. I can get it one mountain over but that's by much more affluent Warwick.
Got it, the VPN is a luxury, I had several old B&W G3's laying around gathering dust and just wanted the experience learning the ins and outs. With iVPN being so cheap, it was well worth it, it's crazy stable and I can use my VNC shortcuts without having to SSH tunnel in first.
I had already automated the SSH tunnel, but what if I could eliminate clicking that extra button? Everything I do is driven by my eternal laziness.
Previously I was only going wireless through my VPN, but this weekend I set up my Mac Pro to go through it wired which in turn goes into my Sonos wireless music system and then back into my router. Because I can.
I don't consider it eternal laziness, I think of it more of conservation of energy. It took you effort to research how to avoid that extra button click so that's not lazy. Some people (my boss) think it's a bad thing but I think choosing the path of least resistance is just choosing the most efficient way.