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Title: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: frailer on January 02, 2017, 06:30:42 PM

Normally, this would be a no-brainer. I have to convert the process blue to Spot and redo the plates, (roller marking.. :rolleyes:  )

It's already set to KO in Inspector, but when 'Hide Selected' for image, getting blue underneath. In its original form, XMF is honouring that KO, as plates are good.   :banghead:
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: Joe on January 02, 2017, 06:44:49 PM
I think because when you hide the image you are hiding the knockout too. Looking at the one with the image it does not appear the image is overprinting that dark blue.
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: frailer on January 02, 2017, 08:19:58 PM
Thanks Joe. (resurfaced here... like a feckin wombat from a burrow.)

My problem is that I've had to convert that process blue to a spot, as they're getting roller marks in the solid... :rolleyes:

They are running separate passes. If they were doing it in one pass, I'd have got away with it. As it is, I've had to delete all but colour pics..--> plates
Then delete pics.. --> Spot plate(s) (2, as they're running 2 for ink coverage etc..
But when I delete the pics, no white boxes, so no good.

Normally, in PitStop, you'd delete the pics and there's be white boxes... not with this one. Got a feeling this is gonna be a Homer, but I cretaed 2 rectangles in PitStop, sized exactly, and place them under the pics, but above the Spot.

I'll go back calmly and find it was unnecessary now, I know it....

BRB... at some stage. Welcome to 2017....  :death:

Oh, I'll upload that PDF page (front).. maybe
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: Joe on January 02, 2017, 08:54:40 PM
Why delete the pick before output? Just output the spot plate with the image still in it. Should have the knockout in it unless I am missing something?

And yes....Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: Farabomb on January 03, 2017, 07:38:25 AM
That's something that should be the first thing that pops in your head but for some reason it doesn't. Unless the images have a spot element and that's highly unlikely that should give you what you need.

I was thinking a white box, maybe go back to the natives if you have them but Joe's option is the simplest and easiest way.
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: Joe on January 03, 2017, 08:57:01 AM
The problem with the white box is that the spot won't be trapped to the image.
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: Farabomb on January 03, 2017, 09:17:34 AM
Another good point. Not that it would matter, the press crew will manage to screw it up somehow.
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: Joe on January 03, 2017, 09:19:33 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on January 03, 2017, 09:17:34 AMAnother good point. Not that it would matter, the press crew will manage to screw it up somehow.

And then blame it on prepress. >:(
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: Farabomb on January 03, 2017, 09:30:09 AM
Why would 2017 be any different?
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: frailer on January 03, 2017, 05:08:25 PM
Quote from: Joe on January 02, 2017, 08:54:40 PMWhy delete the pick before output? Just output the spot plate with the image still in it. Should have the knockout in it unless I am missing something?

And yes....Happy New Year!
It's possible I'm just hearing my fuckwit alarm going off. Off to investigate. Be right back...
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: frailer on January 03, 2017, 09:44:43 PM
Well, combo of old age + 10 days off... over thunk it..started pulling stuff apart..throwing stuff out. :-[
Print result is OK, though ....  :relieved:

Shall we 'move on' now?
Title: Re: Why isn't KO giving me white box?
Post by: Joe on January 03, 2017, 10:02:48 PM
On to the next crappy file...