XMF Install & Training

[Diddler]

Anyone else having a  problem with outputting vector pdf proofs?

oh and thanks for all the help this week, it's been crazy!

I think from memory you have to export the PDF to the drive that XMF is on.  I don't think you can export it directly to a Mac or PC running the XMF client. Can you elaborate a bit more Tracy on the problem.

[frailer]

Ah yes, could be what she means. We always have to retrieve them form a folder on the server, as you probably do as well.  :undecided:

[Tracy]

Thanks Guys! looks like I had a bad setting, it was a font thing

my setting did not say embed complete font
it's taking some issues to get everything dialed in

Also found out my trap setting was wrong too.

[impodave]

There are always issues after the installer/trainer goes over the horizon ...

[Tracy]

new question-
I have been instructed to use pdf x4's which has a jpeg compression
True or False :laugh:

also I am new to pdf workflow, they say refried pdfs are bad
True or False and why

Thanks guys!

[mattbeals]

new question-
I have been instructed to use pdf x4's which has a jpeg compression
True or False :laugh:

also I am new to pdf workflow, they say refried pdfs are bad
True or False and why

Thanks guys!

PDF/X-4 allows for JPEG or ZIP/Flate compression. The Adobe defaults are setup to use JPEG.

Refried PDF's are bad because you take native objects from InDesign, create them in PDF, convert to PostScript (which causes everything to be retranslated from PDF to PS which flattens transparency), convert PostScript back to PDF. A long ways around to get a PDF. Only in the most extraordinary circumstance should a PDF be refried.

[frailer]

also I am new to pdf workflow, they say refried pdfs are bad
True or False and why

Thanks guys!

I doubt there'll too many occasions when you'll need to do that. On the rare occasion XMF doesn't like a PDF, I'll Optimise at a (carefully set) HiRes setting, but still retaining Transparency. If desperate I'll re-Optimise, but check the Transparency button. And then check rendered result very carefully. Assuming it renders, of course.   :laugh:
I think the old re-fry via PostScript is pretty much in disuse now.   :undecided:  Certainly in my little corner. 

[Joe]

new question-
I have been instructed to use pdf x4's which has a jpeg compression
True or False :laugh:

also I am new to pdf workflow, they say refried pdfs are bad
True or False and why

Thanks guys!

I use the X4 settings but change the image compression to ZIP.

[Joe]

also I am new to pdf workflow, they say refried pdfs are bad
True or False and why

Thanks guys!

I doubt there'll too many occasions when you'll need to do that. On the rare occasion XMF doesn't like a PDF, I'll Optimise at a (carefully set) HiRes setting, but still retaining Transparency. If desperate I'll re-Optimise, but check the Transparency button. And then check rendered result very carefully. Assuming it renders, of course.   :laugh:
I think the old re-fry via PostScript is pretty much in disuse now.   :undecided:  Certainly in my little corner. 

Agreed. Any more I might place a PDF into InDesign and export a PDF from that. It does fix some problems but still retains transparency. Can't remember the last time I converted the PS and distilled back to PDF.

[Tracy]

Thanks guys, that clears up a lot of confusion.

and agreed sometime you can't get around re-pdfing out of indy.
But I will try not to.

Hi Matt!

[Tracy]

any way to print out the numbered layouts without doing print screen?
printed 10 screens-annoying

job didn't have page numbers so I needed to print out so I could number my proof

[Diddler]

any way to print out the numbered layouts without doing print screen?
printed 10 screens-annoying

job didn't have page numbers so I needed to print out so I could number my proof

If you job doesn't have page numbers/folio I usually turn on Blind folio in the Marks list. It will put the page number outside the trim line.

[frailer]

As Diddler says.... Blind Folios. Your problem goes away. Placement is controlled by a combo of the two fields in the dropdown. The one you see is achieved with Face+Foot. We harangued them to increase the choice so we could do this sort of placement (it was missing originally), and we got them to put it in eventually. Looks like it's what you need on your one.

[Tracy]

sweeet! thanks guys!

[frailer]

If you need to squeeze 'em into a small gutter, just pull the font size down.