XMF Install & Training

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Tracy

We  have "Pleasing color" only no calibration on our proofs

check out screen shot
looks like xmf is doing some weird trap
at the fold of my 4 color black. I have the black turned off so you can see what it's doing

I have a call into fuji in the am
but any thoughts?

frailer

#271
Hmm.. have you checked out your relevant pages in PitStop Wireframe? Could be trapping, but may not be.
Open the job, select the 2 pages (as per screenshot scenario). Uncheck Trapping. Re-render. See if it goes away.
Don't forget to re-render again if you need Trapping on the job.

You could try 'Suppress Trapping at Page Boundaries', though I've never tried that. (D'Oh!... it's on by defaullt. Ignore that...   :embarrassed: )
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David

If that is a "rich" black, it is probably the pullback of the c, m, and y from the black.
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Farabomb

I see that all the time on register marks.
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Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
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Quote from: david on June 18, 2014, 04:18:20 AMIf that is a "rich" black, it is probably the pullback of the c, m, and y from the black.
what he said  :goodpost:
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Tracy

#275
How do you make it stop? :laugh:

bomb it's the piece above the mark, I have the black turned off.

Thanks frailer, didn't know that was there, gonna try it on my cover first
but can't imagine that you can turn off trapping.
I will let you know what fuji says.

suppress trapping at boundries wasn't on
fixed my cover!

Farabomb

If those are 2 pages butting together I'd check the original art. I'd be the hell out of printing and on my own island if I had a nickel for every time I had to go into art and pull boxes all the way to the spine.

As far as the white I just leave it. Hasn't been an issue for us.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
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Tracy

#277
It's the center spread and we have a press check!!!

 my suppress trapping at page boundaries is not on as a default

fuji said it's not suppose to be which sounds weird
so I just changed the settings for those 2 pages
considering changing the default tho

your probably right tho bomb :wink:

David

Quote from: Tracy on June 18, 2014, 08:08:40 AMHow do you make it stop? :laugh:

bomb it's the piece above the mark, I have the black turned off.

Thanks frailer, didn't know that was there, gonna try it on my cover first
but can't imagine that you can turn off trapping.
I will let you know what fuji says.

suppress trapping at boundries wasn't on
fixed my cover!

with the black on does it get covered up?
If you have a rich black trap, set that to  zero on the pullback.
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Farabomb

If it is that shift the page in slightly so they meet.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
         —Benjamin Franklin

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Joe

Quote from: Tracy on June 18, 2014, 09:41:41 AMIt's the center spread and we have a press check!!!

If it is a center spread did they by chance set it up in the page layout app as two separate picture boxes. One for the LHP and one for the RHP. If so that might be what caused it. Most people would just use one picture box across the whole spread. Then it shouldn't apply any trapping to the middle of the spread.
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You could always allow it to creep in slightly to cover up that line.  Doesn't look like it would take much ...
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Tracy

turning on suppress trapping at page boundaries worked.
kinda weird that it is not set to default,
If it is set to default does it mean it's not going to trap any bleed?

I guess I can test that out myself! :laugh:

The brisque never did this :laugh:

frailer

My Fujifilm advice seems of a slightly higher quality than yours, sometimes. Have a notion that Suppress at Boundaries is meant to deal with just such a scenario.
Cannot see why it should not be default>On.
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Tracy

I'm thinking that too!
Thanks frailer

I already figured out how to set it as default :wink: