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Tracy

#15
September 14, 2016, 11:18:22 AM
I like Borns difference of ppi/line screen, etc.. light bulb moment for me when he told me that!

also take a set of plates if you can swing it, they will love it.
tell em about how ink and water don't mix, they'll go oooooohhh! :laugh:

Ear

#16
September 14, 2016, 11:43:56 AM
The plates are a good idea. I should take some samples of good design/print and nightmare jobs, with reasons why each is good or bad.

Looks like Sept 29th, mid afternoon is the class that I am shooting for. That is 2 weeks from tomorrow. I'm sure I have more than one class worth of information to share, so leaning it down to the important stuff will be the trick. Also plenty of time for Corn, Looch and some other near left coasters to take a drive so they can stand in back of the class and heckle me.
"... profile says he's a seven-foot tall ex-basketball pro, Hindu guru drag queen alien." ~Jet Black

Farabomb

#17
September 14, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
If I wasn't on the other coast I'd DEFINITELY take a trip to watch this.

And probably learn me some shit too.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
         —Benjamin Franklin
My other job

David

#18
September 14, 2016, 01:56:54 PM
one major tip to pass along...

make your friggen page size the correct page size! Don't make a 8.5 x 11 file and place a box in the middle with crops if you want the final trim to be 4 x 6.

oh, and do me a favor and don't do me any favors.
Don't impose your file
Don't trap your file
Don't think you know what the printer needs, call them and ask!!

now, it's time for my drink!    :drunk3:
Prepress guy - Retired - Working from home
Livin' la Vida Loca

Ear

#19
September 14, 2016, 02:39:08 PM
Should I open with some Miyagi wisdom:

Learn no graphic design, okay... learn ALL graphic design, okay... learn just a little graphic design, squish like grape.
"... profile says he's a seven-foot tall ex-basketball pro, Hindu guru drag queen alien." ~Jet Black

born2print

#20
September 14, 2016, 03:20:55 PM
 :azn:  :azn:  :azn:
Those days are gone forever
I should just let them go but...

Possum

#21
September 14, 2016, 03:36:32 PM
To include bleed, DO NOT make your document size bigger. Learn where the bleed settings are in your program, they've all got them.
Tall tree, short ropes, fix stupid.

StudioMonkey

#22
September 15, 2016, 04:33:25 AM
All good points made here.

With regards Bleed - a small point but an important one.  If you have 3mm bleed and a 2mm ticks offset you effectively have 2mm bleed.  Easy to change the settings but nobody remembers.

* or whatever imperial equivalent

Time flies like an arrow - fruit flies like a banana

Farabomb

#23
September 15, 2016, 08:11:11 AM
Photoshop is for photos

Indy is for layout

Illustrator is for vector art

Just because the program has an option to set type in it, doesn't mean you should.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
         —Benjamin Franklin
My other job

Joe

#24
September 15, 2016, 08:33:05 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on September 15, 2016, 08:11:11 AMPhotoshop is for photos

Indy is for layout

Illustrator is for vector art

Just because the program has an option to set type in it, doesn't mean you should.

And Quark?
Mac OS Sonoma 14.2.1 (c) | (retired)

The seven ages of man: spills, drills, thrills, bills, ills, pills and wills.

Farabomb

#25
September 15, 2016, 08:40:35 AM
is dead.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
         —Benjamin Franklin
My other job

David

#26
September 15, 2016, 09:35:23 AM
Quote from: Joe on September 15, 2016, 08:33:05 AMAnd Quark?


I keep all my important stuff in the Trash can...      :rotf:
Prepress guy - Retired - Working from home
Livin' la Vida Loca

Possum

#27
September 15, 2016, 09:44:08 AM
So is (gulp) Freehand.

Another point: Office programs are NOT made for printing. That includes Pooplisher, PowerPuke, Word and Excel.
Tall tree, short ropes, fix stupid.

Farabomb

#28
September 15, 2016, 10:31:06 AM
If you go by one of my very vocal customers you are very wrong. EVERYONE uses office so you are using the wrong software. She wasn't all that observant though. Her husband was busted for child pron later that year.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
         —Benjamin Franklin
My other job

Joe

#29
September 15, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
Quote from: Joe on September 15, 2016, 08:33:05 AMAnd Quark?

Quote from: Farabomb on September 15, 2016, 08:40:35 AMis dead.

How I wish that were true. Last night I had to pull an old job off of tape from May 2004. It was a Quark job. Guess what? You can't open Quark documents below version 9 in any version of Quark v9 or higher. You have to go to the Quark website and download the 'QuarkXPress Document Converter' which will convert earlier versions of Quark files to version 9 Quark files which then can be opened in Quark 9 or newer versions of Quark.

In case anyone is interested in that: QuarkXPress Document Converter 1.2
Mac OS Sonoma 14.2.1 (c) | (retired)

The seven ages of man: spills, drills, thrills, bills, ills, pills and wills.
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