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Title: resume
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on August 07, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
not sure where to put this query, but here goes....

does anyone have a good resume template or layout?

the waters are choppy around here lately so i feel the urge.

if you are an older guy wearing ten hats, do you play that up or down cause ya dont wanna look over qualified, ie. expensive.... just askin is all....

havent had a new resume in over 10 years is all....
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on August 07, 2014, 05:23:45 PM
I haven't had to use a resumé in over 20 years. Reputation is everything out here. Are you looking to get into another field of work?
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DigiCorn on August 07, 2014, 05:25:25 PM
I made a LinkedIn profile, and if anyone asks for my resume, I point them to the LinkedIn site. That's the new trend of the '10s.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DCurry on August 07, 2014, 07:57:23 PM
Resumes are still important, even with a LinkedIn profile. I like to be able to attach a PDF to an email or print it out to hand to someone.

I think I have a decent looking resume - I'll PM it to you and you're welcome to adapt it for your needs. It's "designed" without being overly so, and everything is pretty cleanly laid out.

I will also offer this - I am a freaking grammar and spelling Nazi, so if you get it done and want an extra pair of eyes to look it over I'll be glad to.

If someone gives me a resume and they have typos or spell the name of one of the relevant software applications wrong (like "QuarkExpress" instead of QuarkXpress", or not capitalizing the D in InDesign) I throw it in the trash because it shows a lack of 3 important traits: attention to detail, caring about one's job, and pride in craftsmanship.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on August 07, 2014, 08:00:15 PM

Resumes are still important, even with a LinkedIn profile. I like to be able to attach a PDF to an email or print it out to hand to someone.

I think I have a decent looking resume - I'll PM it to you and you're welcome to adapt it for your needs. It's "designed" without being overly so, and everything is pretty cleanly laid out.

I will also offer this - I am a freaking grammar and spelling Nazi, so if you get it done and want an extra pair of eyes to look it over I'll be glad to.

If someone gives me a resume and they have typos or spell the name of one of the relevant software applications wrong (like "QuarkExpress" instead of QuarkXpress", or not capitalizing the D in InDesign) I throw it in the trash because it shows a lack of 3 important traits: attention to detail, caring about one's job, and pride in craftsmanship.


Dayum, you are hardcore! I like it. I'm still waiting for your address to send that shirt.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on August 07, 2014, 08:07:37 PM

Resumes are still important, even with a LinkedIn profile. I like to be able to attach a PDF to an email or print it out to hand to someone.

I think I have a decent looking resume - I'll PM it to you and you're welcome to adapt it for your needs. It's "designed" without being overly so, and everything is pretty cleanly laid out.

I will also offer this - I am a freaking grammar and spelling Nazi, so if you get it done and want an extra pair of eyes to look it over I'll be glad to.

If someone gives me a resume and they have typos or spell the name of one of the relevant software applications wrong (like "QuarkExpress" instead of QuarkXpress", or not capitalizing the D in InDesign) I throw it in the trash because it shows a lack of 3 important traits: attention to detail, caring about one's job, and pride in craftsmanship.



that,d be cool pm me if you can, would appreciate that... :drunk3:
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DCurry on August 07, 2014, 08:12:15 PM
Dayum, you are hardcore! I like it. I'm still waiting for your address to send that shirt.


Damned right. I figured you of all people would appreciate that stance!

I was just testing you on the shirt thing, since you offered it up to us. You'd probably put some sort of slow-acting contact poison on it for me.

@pspdfppdfx:
Another thing I always do is to send a HANDWRITTEN thank you note to anyone who interviews me. If there are 2 people in the room when you interview, each one gets his/her own (different) note. I use it as a chance to add a little tidbit of info, or to mention that I think I'm a good fit for the position. Even if you don't want the job, send the note. People remember that shit. I've been told on more than one occasion that the note put me over the top in a selection process.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: Tracy on August 07, 2014, 08:23:50 PM
Those are some good tips Dan! thanks!
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on August 07, 2014, 08:28:39 PM

Dayum, you are hardcore! I like it. I'm still waiting for your address to send that shirt.


Damned right. I figured you of all people would appreciate that stance!

I was just testing you on the shirt thing, since you offered it up to us. You'd probably put some sort of slow-acting contact poison on it for me.

@pspdfppdfx:
Another thing I always do is to send a HANDWRITTEN thank you note to anyone who interviews me. If there are 2 people in the room when you interview, each one gets his/her own (different) note. I use it as a chance to add a little tidbit of info, or to mention that I think I'm a good fit for the position. Even if you don't want the job, send the note. People remember that shit. I've been told on more than one occasion that the note put me over the top in a selection process.


Hahahaha, you think you know me?!? You don't know me! :mrt:

Actually, you're right. Dude, I'd seriously give you my shirt, bro. You may not be the feistiest dude on here, but you have more than earned my respect.

Like last night, that save as .IDML? That's some good shit. You do it all the time, and I for one learn a lot from you.

I wouldn't poison you, hahaha, I might send you a shirt you couldn't wear in public without getting a glance or two, though. :laugh:
Title: Re: resume
Post by: seratne on August 07, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
Totally agree with DCurry. If QuarkXpress is spelled wrong, in the trash it goes. Also, if you have no idea what workflow you were using at your last job, the interview is over. Same for the proofers, platesetters, etc. Only put things on your resume that you're sure of also. If given files to work on as a test, don't ask what needs to be done as an open-ended question. Ask, do you want A or B. Don't assume other shops' workflows are setup the same as what you're used to. Ask, should I make sure all of the Black is correctly knocked out / overprinting up front, or will the workflow handle that.

I think in future interviews I'm going to start asking people if they've ever been to b4print.com, just to see if they care, or if they're a sausage.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: Chilbear on August 08, 2014, 07:44:29 AM


if you are an older guy wearing ten hats, do you play that up or down cause ya dont wanna look over qualified, ie. expensive.... just askin is all....

havent had a new resume in over 10 years is all....
I am in the same town and have passed out a few already. The trend is to pay the least and hire the just graduated from RU. Last one I saw yesterday was 1-2 years experience and that was for a Prepress Manager position with up to 20 people. If you can do packaging prepress there are quite a few but the jobs are far from me.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: Tracy on August 08, 2014, 09:00:36 AM
Just looked at my resume, Indesign and Quark
I will fix those!

Going to go thru the whole thing.

thanks guys!
Title: Re: resume
Post by: Designia(o_O) on August 08, 2014, 11:09:28 AM
Another thing is if you do send a physical resume, print/have it printed on the best quality/heaviest text stock you can. A laid finish is good for this. The point being, if someone has 35 resumes on their desk, the one that's more substantial will be easier to find and will look better next to all the crap printed out on 20# copy paper. Or something like a dark blue ink printed on a fiber stock. If you looking for a job in printing then the printing of your resume should reflect your experience and knowledge of inks & stock. 

Title: Re: resume
Post by: DCurry on August 08, 2014, 11:14:07 AM
Dude, I'd seriously give you my shirt, bro.


I don't doubt that at all.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DigiCorn on August 08, 2014, 11:21:33 AM
I don't know how I feel about gimmicky resumes in the printing industry. In advertising it pays to have a clever idea, i.e. glue a doll shoe to the top of your cover letter and start with the line, "I just wanted to get my foot in the door." Also, odd size sheets work because they stick out of a pile or don't fit in a folder. But in printing, people are usually pretty stressed and busy and don't want to [mess] around.

My current job I got via electronic resume (pdf), and my last job before this one I went in and the guy went on some long spiel so I cut him off and said something like, "I need a job because I'm not getting enough hours where I'm at. Want to know where my skills are? Last night on press we got ghosting on press where we had a large solid with an open box filled with a metallic ink. I changed the screen angle and bottled it because we didn't have a large enough sheet size for a proper take off bar. Can't waste press time." I got hired on the spot.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on August 08, 2014, 12:18:18 PM
Word of mouth and reputation is all I've ever had to do. OKC is rurally a large area, but the printing field is pretty close-knit. The Prepress guys out here play musical chairs about every 2-5 years. The guy I work with now, this is my third time working with him at different companies.

When we 86d the Blood-Sausage here, I needed a good output guy, I heard through the grapevine that my now co-worker was available, so I called him up and hired him on the phone. I got hired on here pretty much the same way.

I interviewed about 6 months before, never filled out an app or submitted a resumé. We couldn't come to terms on pay. The PM said he'd keep me in mind. I told him it would have to be a sweet deal, I wouldn't leave the company I was at for the same pay. After 6 months, he called begging me to come and work and I gave him ridiculous terms, all of which he honored.

Again, no application or resumé. I've gotten the last 3 or 4 jobs that way. If you're good at your job, word of mouth and the interview will reflect that. Be confident, tell them how it is and don't be afraid of tooting your own horn... BUT, be willing and able to back it up.

I think a lot of employers are sick of being fooled into believing you are qualified for the job, and then are not. When I used to do interviews, I was surprised at just how many Prepress guys came in and said they could this and that. When the physical test came, none of these guys knew anything about it, I just popped them with it... stress is another VERY important aspect of the job. I watched guys that were in the business and were THE guy at their previous shop poke and fiddle and some even walk out. None of them could complete it and it wasn't hard... for a Prepress guy.

You gotta back that shit up!

Now, it's always worked for me. It may be different where you are.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DigiCorn on August 08, 2014, 12:27:59 PM
I actually forgot this until you said,

Word of mouth and reputation is all I've ever had to do. OKC is rurally a large area, but the printing field is pretty close-knit.


Pretty much every print shop around here uses Agfa-Pitman for supplies. I met the area rep, "Murph," at the now defunct Graphic Center print shop that moved me up to the Sac area. When I answered the Craigslist ad for my current job almost 7 years ago, the owner here asked if I knew Murphy. I told him I did, and he asked if it'd be okay if he asked Murphy about me, and of course I said, "yes."

Next time I saw Murphy at my old shop, he asked me about it. I told him I had feelers out for something new, and if I could trust him not to say anything to my current bosses. He kept mum, and I got hired over here.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on August 08, 2014, 12:35:39 PM
My old boss from the service bureau days is the current gossip-keeper in town. I go to him for all the bullshit. He is very well informed and very respected.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: Farabomb on August 08, 2014, 01:09:42 PM
The heavier stock is a good idea and it will show you know crap from good. Being a little different is good but don't go too far. That can end up biting you in the ass. Like design things are subjective. You may think you have the best resume in the world but if the person reviewing it doesn't like it, into the circular file it goes.

Bosses like when you show drive but don't like someone that thinks too far out of the box. They don't need to be babysitters.

During the divorce of my brother and his partner there was some shit talked about me. How I wasn't easy to work with (coming from him is the definition of the pot and the kettle) and I made others uncomfortable. I worked with one other person who I knew personally before she was hired. Supposedly it was coming from her but I guarantee it was from my brother's partner and using her as a scapegoat. To this day I still get emails when she's stuck on a file and when she needs car/tech advice. I still get xmas and Bday presents from her.

You have to be confident in your work. If you don't know how to do something you have to be willing to learn. I'd bet that I'd fail some of the tests you guys would put in front of me. I would learn how to do it though and keep progressing. I don't have anyone to bounce off here. That's part of the reason I post here. What I don't know I will learn.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on August 08, 2014, 01:31:16 PM

The heavier stock is a good idea and it will show you know crap from good. Being a little different is good but don't go too far. That can end up biting you in the ass. Like design things are subjective. You may think you have the best resume in the world but if the person reviewing it doesn't like it, into the circular file it goes.

Bosses like when you show drive but don't like someone that thinks too far out of the box. They don't need to be babysitters.

During the divorce of my brother and his partner there was some shit talked about me. How I wasn't easy to work with (coming from him is the definition of the pot and the kettle) and I made others uncomfortable. I worked with one other person who I knew personally before she was hired. Supposedly it was coming from her but I guarantee it was from my brother's partner and using her as a scapegoat. To this day I still get emails when she's stuck on a file and when she needs car/tech advice. I still get xmas and Bday presents from her.

You have to be confident in your work. If you don't know how to do something you have to be willing to learn. I'd bet that I'd fail some of the tests you guys would put in front of me. I would learn how to do it though and keep progressing. I don't have anyone to bounce off here. That's part of the reason I post here. What I don't know I will learn.


I have a reputation for being an asshole. I am good at my job, but difficult to work with. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. When I am questioned about this, I have one stock answer... "I'm here to work and do my job and save the company money, making friends is not part of that equation." Employers seem to like that answer.
Title: Re: resume
Post by: DigiCorn on August 08, 2014, 01:41:29 PM


The heavier stock is a good idea and it will show you know crap from good. Being a little different is good but don't go too far. That can end up biting you in the ass. Like design things are subjective. You may think you have the best resume in the world but if the person reviewing it doesn't like it, into the circular file it goes.

Bosses like when you show drive but don't like someone that thinks too far out of the box. They don't need to be babysitters.

During the divorce of my brother and his partner there was some shit talked about me. How I wasn't easy to work with (coming from him is the definition of the pot and the kettle) and I made others uncomfortable. I worked with one other person who I knew personally before she was hired. Supposedly it was coming from her but I guarantee it was from my brother's partner and using her as a scapegoat. To this day I still get emails when she's stuck on a file and when she needs car/tech advice. I still get xmas and Bday presents from her.

You have to be confident in your work. If you don't know how to do something you have to be willing to learn. I'd bet that I'd fail some of the tests you guys would put in front of me. I would learn how to do it though and keep progressing. I don't have anyone to bounce off here. That's part of the reason I post here. What I don't know I will learn.


I have a reputation for being an asshole. I am good at my job, but difficult to work with. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. When I am questioned about this, I have one stock answer... "I'm here to work and do my job and save the company money, making friends is not part of that equation." Employers seem to like that answer.
It's like you guys are talking about me. I hear those same things all the time too. My stock answer is, "if you don't like it, then go find two guys to replace me."
Title: Re: resume
Post by: Farabomb on August 08, 2014, 01:59:42 PM
If I see you costing the company money you will hear it from me first. If you continue after I say something you will hear it from management.

I'm ok with having fun at work... after all the work is done. I fuck around but only when my rack is clear.

Working for family is normally not to my benefit. I get leaned on hard but I also take you affecting the company personally.